Equation for Final velocity: Projectile Fired from Earth

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The discussion centers on calculating the final velocity of a projectile fired from Earth with an initial speed of 12.0 km/s, exceeding escape velocity. The provided equation, which involves kinetic and gravitational potential energy, is debated for its correctness in determining the velocity at infinite separation from Earth. It is clarified that at infinite distance, potential energy approaches zero, allowing the use of energy conservation principles to relate initial and final states. The equation simplifies to show that the mass of the projectile cancels out, confirming its validity. Additionally, an alternative scenario is mentioned for calculating velocity at a specific distance above Earth's surface.
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Suppose a projectile is fired upward from the surface of the Earth. If the initial speed of the projectile is v = 12.0 km/s (more than the escape velocity): how fast will it be moving it is so far from Earth that the force of gravity is approximately zero?

The equation I was given to solve is:

1/2 v(initial)^2 - G(Mass of Earth) / radius of Earth = 1/2v(final)^2

I do NOT think this equation is correct. Can someone please help/advise? Many thanks.
 
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sweetpete28 said:
Suppose a projectile is fired upward from the surface of the Earth. If the initial speed of the projectile is v = 12.0 km/s (more than the escape velocity): how fast will it be moving it is so far from Earth that the force of gravity is approximately zero?

The equation I was given to solve is:

1/2 v(initial)^2 - G(Mass of Earth) / radius of Earth = 1/2v(final)^2

I do NOT think this equation is correct. Can someone please help/advise? Many thanks.

"so far from Earth that the force of gravity is approximately zero" means basically at infinite separation.

At all times, the sum of Kinetic and Potential energy is constant.

Kinetic energy is given by 1/2 m v2

Potential energy is given by -GMEm/R

when r = ∞ , Potential Energy = zero

thus comparing "at the surface" - the initial position - to infinite separation - the final position - we have

1/2 m vi2 + -GMEm/RE = 1/2 m vf2

Once you cancel the common term - the mass of the satellite - you get the equation you were given.

As an aside:
If you wanted to find out how fast it was traveling 4 Earth radii above the surface [which means a centre - centre separation of 5RE] you would use:

1/2 m vi2 + -GMEm/RE = 1/2 m vf2+ -GMEm/5RE
 
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