Equation of Plane & Line Passing Through Points: Find E & Dist.

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a plane through three given points and determining the line that is perpendicular to this plane. Participants clarify that "scalar parametric form" refers to expressing the line's equations using simple numerical parameters rather than complex ones. There is a debate on the nature of parameterizations, with some arguing that simpler forms are preferable for clarity and effectiveness. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the context of scalar equations in three-dimensional geometry. Ultimately, the focus is on correctly applying these concepts to solve the problem at hand.
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(a) Find the equation of the plane p which passes through the three points
(A 1,0,1), B(2,−1,1) .and C(0,3,2) .

(b) Find a scalar parametric form of the equation for the line which passes
through the point D(−1,1,1) and which is perpendicular to the plane p.

(c) Let E be the point where the line  intersects the plane p. Find, in the
scalar parametric equation for the line, the value of the parameter which
corresponds to the point E and hence find the co-ordinates of this point.

(d) What is the closest distance of the point D from the plane p?

i've done most of the question but I'm not quite sure I've got the right answer. And i don't understand what it means by scalar parametric form in part b, does the question just want me to write it as three separate linear equations?
 
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hi ronho1234! :smile:
ronho1234 said:
(b) Find a scalar parametric form of the equation for the line which passes
through the point D(−1,1,1) and which is perpendicular to the plane p.

… i don't understand what it means by scalar parametric form in part b, does the question just want me to write it as three separate linear equations?

yes

"scalar" simply means that you use an "obvious" parameter, instead of a (perfectly valid but) stupid one …

eg x = t, y = 3t + 5

as opposed to x = t2cosht, y = 3t2cosht + 5 :wink:
 
ronho1234 said:
(b) Find a scalar parametric form of the equation for the line which passes
through the point D(−1,1,1) and which is perpendicular to the plane p.
Well, I don't believe I agree with tiny-tim that it is a difference between "reasonable" and "stupid" parameterizations! both x= t, y= 3t+5 and x= t^2cosh(t), y= 3t^2 cosh(t)+ 5 are perfectly good scalar parameterizations.

The point is that the give three scalar (numerical) equations for x and y as opposed to the vector equation \vec{r}(x,y)= t\vec{i}+ (3t+ 5)\vec{j}.

You understand, I hope, that these are NOT the solution to your problem stated above which is three dimensional. For that you need to know that the line through point (x_0, y_0, z_0), perpendicular to plane Ax+ By+ CZ= D has scalar parametric equations x= At+ x_0, y= Bt+ y_0, z= Ct+ z_0.
 
tiny-tim said:
hi ronho1234! :smile:


yes

"scalar" simply means that you use an "obvious" parameter, instead of a (perfectly valid but) stupid one …

eg x = t, y = 3t + 5

as opposed to x = t2cosht, y = 3t2cosht + 5 :wink:

HallsofIvy said:
Well, I don't believe I agree with tiny-tim that it is a difference between "reasonable" and "stupid" parameterizations! both x= t, y= 3t+5 and x= t^2cosh(t), y= 3t^2 cosh(t)+ 5 are perfectly good scalar parameterizations.

But some parameterizations really are better than others in a given setting. Tiny Tim's second parameterization doesn't give the whole line that his first one does in his example.
 
HallsofIvy said:
… both x= t, y= 3t+5 and x= t^2cosh(t), y= 3t^2 cosh(t)+ 5 are perfectly good scalar parameterizations.

i'm not convinced …

my guess is that, by "scalar", the question means "linear"​

(as in "scalar multiplication" :wink:)
 
No, scalar simply means "number".

(More generally, in linear algebra, a "scalar" is a member of the underlying field of the vector space.)
 
I picked up this problem from the Schaum's series book titled "College Mathematics" by Ayres/Schmidt. It is a solved problem in the book. But what surprised me was that the solution to this problem was given in one line without any explanation. I could, therefore, not understand how the given one-line solution was reached. The one-line solution in the book says: The equation is ##x \cos{\omega} +y \sin{\omega} - 5 = 0##, ##\omega## being the parameter. From my side, the only thing I could...
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