Equilibrium of Charges using Coloumbs Law

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The discussion revolves around finding the equilibrium position of an electron in the presence of two point charges: a negative charge of -0.5 C at the origin and a positive charge of 12 C located at (1 m, 0.5 m). Participants are exploring the application of Coulomb's Law to determine the coordinates where the electron would experience balanced forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to calculate the forces exerted by the point charges on the electron and set these forces equal to find the equilibrium position. There is mention of using trigonometry to relate distances and forces, as well as the suggestion to visualize the problem with a diagram.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the approach, suggesting that the original poster clarify their equations and consider the one-dimensional nature of the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of how to set up the equations correctly, with no explicit consensus reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve assumptions about the distances and the arrangement of the charges, and there is a recognition of the complexity introduced by the need to balance the forces from both charges.

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Homework Statement


A point charge of -0.5 C is located at the origin. A second point charge of 12 C is at x = 1 m, y = 0.5 m. Find the x and y coordinates of the position at which an electron would be in equilibrium.


Homework Equations


F=k*((q_1*q_2)/r^2)



The Attempt at a Solution


I know that I will have to find the two forces that the point charges will have on the electron at some arbitrary point that we will eventually solve for. We then set those two forces equal to each other and then solve for the distance. Once we have the distance we can easily solve for the components using simple trig... I must be having a problem setting up my equations any help?
 
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Start by showing what you have done so far. Your strategy is OK, can you do what you said you should do and write some equations down? Also drawing a picture with where you think the electron might be located should help.
 
gc33550 said:
I know that I will have to find the two forces that the point charges will have on the electron at some arbitrary point that we will eventually solve for. We then set those two forces equal to each other and then solve for the distance. Once we have the distance we can easily solve for the components using simple trig... I must be having a problem setting up my equations any help?

Hi gc33550! :smile:

I'm not sure whether you've noticed that this is a one-dimensional problem …

then just use the usual 1/r2 formula, using a different r for each charge, of course. :wink:
 
kuruman said:
Start by showing what you have done so far. Your strategy is OK, can you do what you said you should do and write some equations down? Also drawing a picture with where you think the electron might be located should help.

tiny-tim said:
Hi gc33550! :smile:

I'm not sure whether you've noticed that this is a one-dimensional problem …

then just use the usual 1/r2 formula, using a different r for each charge, of course. :wink:

Thanks for your Input. Yes I realize it is one dimensional so hear is what I have so far:
(I will define 1 as the negative charge and 2 as the positive and e will be the electron)

F_1e=k*((-.5muC*e)/R_1e^2)
F_2e=k*((12muC*e)/R_2e^2)

to find equilibrium:

F_1e= F_2e

I am then left with:

((-.5muC)/R_1e^2)=((12muC)/R_2e^2)

I know the distance of R1 to R2 because of trig. So then R_2e=(R_1e+1.12m)
As far as where the electron is it would be in the third quadrant along a straight line with the other two point charges I know it will have to be close to the negative point charge to balance out the great attractive force of the positive point charge.
Once again thanks to both of you.
 
Hi gc33550! :smile:

(have a mu: µ and try using the X2 and X2 tags just above the Reply box :wink:)
gc33550 said:
((-.5muC)/R_1e^2)=((12muC)/R_2e^2)

I know the distance of R1 to R2 because of trig. So then R_2e=(R_1e+1.12m)

(your equations are almost unreadable, but I think I follow that bit :redface: …)

ok, now substitute for R2 in the first equation, put everything on top, and you have a quadratic equation in R1 :smile:
 

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