Equilibrum Concentration Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equilibrium concentration of I2 in the reaction H2(g) + I2(g) = 2HI at a temperature T, with initial amounts of 1.40 mol H2 and 3.50 mol I2 in a 1.00 L vessel, and an equilibrium constant K of 49.7 x 10^10. Participants express frustration with the calculations, particularly with the quadratic formula approach yielding unrealistic values for x. A more effective method is suggested, emphasizing the use of the large equilibrium constant approximation. This involves setting up an ICE table to track initial concentrations, changes, and equilibrium concentrations. By recognizing that H2 limits the reaction, participants are guided to simplify the equilibrium expression by ignoring the small x value, leading to a straightforward calculation for x. The final equilibrium concentration of I2 is approximated to be around 2.1 mol, as the small change in concentration does not significantly affect the result.
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H2(g) + I2(g) = 2HI at a temperature T


If 1.40 mol H2 and 3.50 mol I2 are placed in a
1.00 L vessel, what is the equilibrium concentration of I2 in the gaseous mixture?
The equilibrium constant is K = 49.7 x 10 10

HINT You can use the approximation for Large Equilibrium Constants


this problem is giving me such a big headache, i mean i set up the table and it should be

49.7X10^10=[2x]^2/[1.4-x][3.5-x]

and then just use a quadratic fomula to find x, and subtract the number from 3.5, and i keep getting for x= 2.29x10^13, cause it can't be negative

please help
 
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49.7X10^10=[2x]^2/[1.4-x][3.5-x]

this seems correct, there must be something with your math.
 
parwana said:
49.7X10^10=[2x]^2/[1.4-x][3.5-x]

and then just use a quadratic fomula to find x, and subtract the number from 3.5, and i keep getting for x= 2.29x10^13, cause it can't be negative
I entered that into my calculator (equation solver on a TI calculator) and it says the answer is x = 352491.1346 when the denominator in your equation is removed. x is so huge that subtracting it from something like 1.4 rounds to 0 and the calculator gets divide by 0 errors.

If you have a TI calculator, set time aside to learn everything about the equation solver. It will save you an incredible amount of time in the future.
 
do you go to SUNY stony brook? Because I do and that was one of the capa questions for this week, heh.

You have to set up the table:
H2 I2 2HI
1.4 3.5 0
-1.4 -1.4 +2(1.4)
0 2.1 2.8

The first row is the initial, second is the change to completion, third is the moles at completion...since H2 limits this reaction, you have to do your calculations based on the complete consumption of H2 and then you go from completion to equilibrium like so...

H2 I2 2HI
0 2.1 2.8
+x +x -2x
x 2.1+x 2.8-2x

so thos're are your equilibrium equations and then you set up Keq like this:

49.7x10^10 = (2.8-2x)^2/(x)(2.1-x)

since Keq is so large, you can ignore the value of x for now...so then u get this:

49.7x10^10 = (2.8)^2/(x)(2.1)

and then you simply solve for x...no quadratic equation necessary. Then you go back to your equilibrium equation for I2 which is 2.1 - x and you plug in your x value. And guess what, since x is so darn small, chances are if you put in 2.1 for your answer, you'd be right.

Hope that helps.
 
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