Equivalent Capacitance Between X and Y in this capacitor circuit

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The discussion revolves around determining the equivalent capacitance in a complex capacitor circuit. Participants are exploring strategies for analyzing circuits that may involve series and parallel connections of capacitors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest looking for series-parallel connections and question how to approach circuits with additional capacitors in the wiring. There is a discussion about the lack of a fixed algorithm for analyzing such circuits and the need for different techniques depending on the circuit configuration.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing various approaches and hints. Some have offered guidance on redrawing schematics for clarity and exploring different circuit representations. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the complexity of the circuit and the potential for varying interpretations based on the arrangement of components. The original poster expresses difficulty with complex circuits, indicating a need for clarification and support in understanding the analysis process.

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Homework Statement
Four capacitors are connected as shown in the figure below. Calculate the equivalent Capacitance between X and Y.
Relevant Equations
##C_{eq} = C_1 + C_2 + ... + C_n## if they are in parallel
## \frac{1}{C_{eq}} = \frac{1}{C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} + ... + \frac{1}{C_n}## if they are in series
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This is the problem.

If someone asks you this question, how would you solve it?

I am finding it really tough to solve when the circuit gets a bit complex. It would be nice if you share what exactly you'll do to solve complex circuits such as this (the algorithm).
 
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Look for series-parallel connections.
Hint: If 'n' capacitors are electrically connected between the same two points, they are electrically in parallel.
 
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cnh1995 said:
Look for series-parallel connections.
Hint: If 'n' capacitors are electrically connected between the same two points, they are electrically in parallel.
What if the wires without any components also have some capacitors? Then there will be no two capacitors having the same points.
Like this one:
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Kaushik said:
What if the wires without any components also have some capacitors?
There is no single "fixed" algorithm to analyse such circuits. In your original circuit, series-parallel reduction works. In some other circuit, you may need to use different techniques (separately/together) like star-delta reduction, symmetry arguments, some network theorems etc. It all depends on the given circuit.

Is the question in your OP answered?
 
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cnh1995 said:
Is the question in your OP answered?
Yes.
 
Personally, the first thing I would do is redraw the schematic in a simpler topology. Name all of the nodes so you can check your work. This is a one of a class of network analysis problems that look pretty simple in one presentation and really confusing when drawn otherwise.

While it may require some intuition to make it simple on your first try, there is no reason why you can't just quickly sketch a few variants to see which makes more sense to you.
 
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