Equivalent Spring Constant (3 springs attached to a swinging rod)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving the expression for the equivalent spring constant of a system involving three springs attached to a swinging rod. Participants explore the relationship between the applied force and the resulting displacement, considering the assumptions of small displacements.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant has solved the problem but found a discrepancy between their answer and that of the solution manual, which assumes equal extensions for all springs.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for the first participant's solution, suggesting it may be more accurate.
  • A later reply questions whether the stiffness values provided for the springs are the actual stiffnesses or if they account for the effects of different displacements as the arm rotates.
  • Assuming the stiffness values are real, one participant supports the first participant's answer as being correct.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on which method to follow for deriving the equivalent spring constant, as participants have differing views on the assumptions regarding spring extensions and stiffness values.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the implications of different assumptions about the stiffness of the springs and their extensions, which may affect the derived expressions for the equivalent spring constant.

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Homework Statement


Q) Derive the expression for the equivalent spring constant that relates the applied force F to the
resulting displacement x of the system shown in Fig. 1.86. Assume the displacement of the
link to be small.




Homework Equations


I have solved the question but when i checked it on the solution manual, the answer was different. In the solution manual they have approximated the extensions of all the springs as the same but i think they will be different.
Please let me know whether my method is correct or the one in the solution manual.

MY WORKING:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/2bdhs46w9igg83d/IMG_20140510_214819.jpg

solution manual:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/ks0t5btpg5y7d13/IMG_20140510_214607.jpg


The Attempt at a Solution


There are 2 methods and each leading to different values of Keq. Which method should i follow?
 
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Figure 1.86 wasn't posted but based on the information you provided, I think I like your solution better.
 
Thanks for your reply.
Figure 1.86 is the same as what is drawn in my working.
 
The only thing that is not absolutely clear from your two attachments is whether the different stiffness of k1, k2, k3 are meant to be the "real" stiffness, or the effective stiffness including effect of the different displacements as the arm rotates.

Assuming they are the real stiffness of the 3 springs, I think your answer is correct.
 

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