Errors in Experiment with Low and High Conductivity Materials

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This discussion focuses on the sources of error encountered in experiments involving materials with varying thermal conductivities, specifically low and high conductivity materials. Key points include the impact of convection on heat loss in low conductivity materials and the potential for rapid warming errors in high conductivity materials. The use of aluminum foil as insulation for Plexiglass and glass samples is questioned, with the assumption that it may not provide any advantage due to their already high thermal conductivities. The discussion emphasizes the need for detailed experimental procedures and data collection methods to accurately assess these factors.

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TL;DR Summary: Trying to understand why there might be errors when using certain materials in a physics lab and how aluminum foil might impact this.

I am looking for assistance on answer these questions.

1) What would likely be a significant source of error in performing this experiment on other materials that have very low thermal conductivities that you would not see for materials that have higher thermal conductivities?

2) What would likely be a significant source of error in performing this experiment on other materials that have very high thermal conductivity that you would not see for materials that have lower thermal conductivities?

and

3) Would there be any advantage to wrapping the Plexiglass and glass samples in aluminum foil like the pine and sheet rock were?

I have been thinking if with a very low conductivity material if that much of the heat is lost by convection, because convection would work quicker on the ice versus conduction. I am not sure if this is an accurate statement. As for a material with very high conductivity, would errors arise in the rapid warming of the ice? How so? Also, for number 3, I am under the assumption that because Plexiglass and glass samples have high conductivities already, if aluminum foil would not offer an advantage but act as an insulator. I have attached the lab set up.

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john325 said:
TL;DR Summary: Trying to understand why there might be errors when using certain materials in a physics lab and how aluminum foil might impact this.

I am looking for assistance on answer these questions.

1) What would likely be a significant source of error in performing this experiment on other materials that have very low thermal conductivities that you would not see for materials that have higher thermal conductivities?

2) What would likely be a significant source of error in performing this experiment on other materials that have very high thermal conductivity that you would not see for materials that have lower thermal conductivities?

and

3) Would there be any advantage to wrapping the Plexiglass and glass samples in aluminum foil like the pine and sheet rock were?

I have been thinking if with a very low conductivity material if that much of the heat is lost by convection, because convection would work quicker on the ice versus conduction. I am not sure if this is an accurate statement. As for a material with very high conductivity, would errors arise in the rapid warming of the ice? How so? Also, for number 3, I am under the assumption that because Plexiglass and glass samples have high conductivities already, if aluminum foil would not offer an advantage but act as an insulator. I have attached the lab set up.

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Hello, @john325 .

:welcome:

You will need to give more details, both in regards to the data you obtain,, the procedures you use to obtain it, what quantities you are ultimately trying to determine and how you determine those quantities from your data. etc.

You have mentioned 4 or the 5 materials.

What are the possible paths for convection?

Looks like you introduce steam from below on the lower surface of your sample and have some form of ice in contact with the upper surface. Lots of questions come to mind here.

As a guess: It looks as though you are trying to maintain a temperature of approximately 100°C on the lower surface and 0°C on the upper surface. I suppose that you then try to measure the rate of ice melt and/or the rate of condensation.
 
The "V-channel" that collected the melted water - what was it made of? how thick was it? It was touching the ice mold (casing?) wasn't it? was that mold plastic?

What was the steam box made from?
Was its top surface flat, or did it have a huge hole underneath the material sample?
 

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