Estimate Vector Field Surface Integral

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of estimating surface integrals of vector fields using unit normal vectors. The vector <1/4, 3/4, 1> is not a unit normal vector pointing in the positive z direction and the point it is attached to is (1/4, 3/4, 0). The coordinates of the point do not appear as components of the unit normal vector as the direction is determined by the orientation of a small section of surface.
  • #1
maxhersch
21
0
Thread moved from the technical forums, so no Homework Help Template is shown.
DkKHpDI.png


I assume this is a simple summation of the normal components of the vector fields at the given points multiplied by dA which in this case would be 1/4.

jyxG7rs.png

This is not being accepted as the correct answer. Not sure where I am going wrong. My textbook doesn't discuss estimating surface integrals of vector fields but I assume it's done this way, similar to any other integral. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Hi maxhersch,

The vector <1/4, 3/4, 1> is not a unit normal vector pointing in the positive z direction. It is a vector that points along the direction between the origin and the point (1/4, 3/4, 1). A unit normal vector pointing in the positive z-direction is <0, 0, 1>. The point that this vector is attached to for the purpose of carrying out this integral is (1/4, 3/4, 0), but in the usual formalism of Gibbs vector calculus, we do not usually show this second condition.
Recall that each point is assigned its own unit normal vector for the purpose of carrying out the integral, but the coordinates of the point do not appear as components of the unit normal vector. They are relatively indepedent numbers, as the direction of the unit normal vector is determined by the orientation of a small section of surface containing the point, not the point all by itself.
 
  • #3
slider142 said:
Hi maxhersch,

The vector <1/4, 3/4, 1> is not a unit normal vector pointing in the positive z direction. It is a vector that points along the direction between the origin and the point (1/4, 3/4, 1). A unit normal vector pointing in the positive z-direction is <0, 0, 1>. The point that this vector is attached to for the purpose of carrying out this integral is (1/4, 3/4, 0), but in the usual formalism of Gibbs vector calculus, we do not usually show this second condition.
Recall that each point is assigned its own unit normal vector for the purpose of carrying out the integral, but the coordinates of the point do not appear as components of the unit normal vector. They are relatively indepedent numbers, as the direction of the unit normal vector is determined by the orientation of a small section of surface containing the point, not the point all by itself.

Perfect thanks a lot
 

1. What is a vector field surface integral?

A vector field surface integral is a mathematical concept that involves calculating the flow of a vector field through a surface. It takes into account both the magnitude and direction of the vector field at each point on the surface to determine the overall flux through the surface.

2. How is the surface integral of a vector field estimated?

The surface integral of a vector field is estimated by dividing the surface into smaller, manageable pieces and approximating the flux through each piece using a formula. The total estimate is then obtained by summing up the approximations for each piece.

3. What is the significance of estimating vector field surface integrals?

Estimating vector field surface integrals is important in many fields of science and engineering, as it allows us to calculate important quantities such as electric or magnetic flux, fluid flow, and heat transfer. These calculations are essential in understanding and predicting the behavior of physical systems.

4. Can the estimated value of a vector field surface integral be made more accurate?

Yes, the estimated value of a vector field surface integral can be made more accurate by using smaller and more numerous pieces to approximate the flux through the surface. Additionally, more complex and precise formulas can be used for the estimation process.

5. Are there any real-world applications of estimating vector field surface integrals?

Yes, estimating vector field surface integrals has many real-world applications. It is used in engineering to design and optimize structures and machines, in physics to study fluid flow and electromagnetic fields, and in meteorology to predict weather patterns. It is also used in computer graphics to create realistic visual effects and simulations.

Similar threads

  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
608
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
753
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
24
Views
1K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
0
Views
555
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
1K
Back
Top