Evaluating limit for this function

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the function \( \lim_{(x,y,z) \rightarrow (0,\sqrt\pi,1)} \ e^{xz} \cos y^2 - x \). Participants explore the continuity of the function at the specified point and consider the implications of approaching the limit from different paths.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants discuss the limit's value appearing to be -1 based on various approaches. Others question whether additional functions are necessary to confirm this result or if continuity suffices. There is also a focus on clarifying the correct point of evaluation and the continuity of the involved functions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the continuity of the function and its implications for evaluating the limit. There is recognition of the need to clarify the correct function notation and the point of interest, but no consensus has been reached on the necessity of further exploration.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential typos and misunderstandings regarding the limit's evaluation point, indicating a need for careful attention to detail in multivariable calculus contexts.

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Homework Statement



Function is ##lim_{(x,y,z) \rightarrow (0,\sqrt\pi,1)} \ e^{xz} \cos y^2 - x##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


As ##x \rightarrow 0## along ##y= \sqrt \pi, z=1##, ##f(x,y,z)= -1##

As ##y \rightarrow 0## along ##x=0, z=1##, ##f(x,y,z) = -1##

As ##z \rightarrow 1## along ##x=0, y= \sqrt \pi##, ##f(x,y,z) = -1##

From what I have done, the limit looks like it is -1. I'm wondering if there are any other functions I could use to show that it is true. Or this is not needed at all, because of the argument that the function is continuous at the point ##(0,\sqrt \pi, 1)##? If so, the above steps are not needed at all, right?

Thanks.
 
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toforfiltum said:

Homework Statement



Function is ##lim_{(x,y,z) \rightarrow (0,0,0)} \ e^{xz} \cos y^2 - x##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


As ##x \rightarrow 0## along ##y= \sqrt \pi, z=1##, ##f(x,y)= -1##

As ##y \rightarrow 0## along ##x=0, z=1##, ##f(x,y) = -1##

As ##z \rightarrow 1## along ##x=0, y= \sqrt \pi##, ##f(x,y) = -1##

From what I have done, the limit looks like it is -1. I'm wondering if there are any other functions I could use to show that it is true. Or this is not needed at all, because of the argument that the function is continuous at the point ##(0,\sqrt \pi, 1)##? If so, the above steps are not needed at all, right?
The function in the limit is continuous at (0, 0, 0), so there's not need to be concerned about different paths to this point. Also, why are you concerned about the point ##(0, \sqrt{\pi}, 1)##? It's nowhere near to the point at which the limit is being taken.
 
Mark44 said:
The function in the limit is continuous at (0, 0, 0), so there's not need to be concerned about different paths to this point. Also, why are you concerned about the point ##(0, \sqrt{\pi}, 1)##? It's nowhere near to the point at which the limit is being taken.
Oops, sorry! My typo. The question did indeed ask me to evaluate the limit at ##(0, \sqrt\pi, 1)##.

Thanks!
 
toforfiltum said:
Oops, sorry! My typo. The question did indeed ask me to evaluate the limit at ##(0, \sqrt\pi, 1)##.
OK, then that makes more sense, but it doesn't change what I said. The exponential part (##e^{xz}##) is continuous for every real value of x and z; the cosine function is continuous for all real y (and y2) and the simple polynomial x is continuous for all real x. Sums, differences, and products of these functions are also continuous for all real x, y, and z.

Where you run into problems is with quotients or other operations that produce undefined results.
 
Mark44 said:
OK, then that makes more sense, but it doesn't change what I said. The exponential part (##e^{xz}##) is continuous for every real value of x and z; the cosine function is continuous for all real y (and y2) and the simple polynomial x is continuous for all real x. Sums and differences of these functions are also continuous for all real x, y, and z.
So in this case, the limit at the point is equal to the inputs of the function.

Thanks!
 
toforfiltum said:

Homework Statement



Function is ##lim_{(x,y,z) \rightarrow (0,\sqrt\pi,1)} \ e^{xz} \cos y^2 - x##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


As ##x \rightarrow 0## along ##y= \sqrt \pi, z=1##, ##f(x,y)= -1##

As ##y \rightarrow 0## along ##x=0, z=1##, ##f(x,y) = -1##

As ##z \rightarrow 1## along ##x=0, y= \sqrt \pi##, ##f(x,y) = -1##

From what I have done, the limit looks like it is -1. I'm wondering if there are any other functions I could use to show that it is true. Or this is not needed at all, because of the argument that the function is continuous at the point ##(0,\sqrt \pi, 1)##? If so, the above steps are not needed at all, right?

Thanks.
It looks like there are some typos in your post.

From what's in the attempt, it appears that you actually are interested in ##\displaystyle\ lim _{(x,\,y,\,z)\to (0,\, \sqrt \pi ,\, 1)}\ f(x,y,z)\,,\ ## where ##\displaystyle\ f(x,y,z)= e^{xz} \cos (y^2) - x \ .##

Where you have ##\ f(x,y)\,,\ ## I think you mean to have ##\ f(x,y,z)\ .##(It took me wayyyyyy tooooo long to type this in !)
 
SammyS said:
It looks like there are some typos in your post.

From what's in the attempt, it appears that you actually are interested in ##\displaystyle\ lim _{(x,\,y,\,z)\to (0,\, \sqrt \pi ,\, 1)}\ f(x,y,z)\,,\ ## where ##\displaystyle\ f(x,y,z)= e^{xz} \cos (y^2) - x \ .##

Where you have ##\ f(x,y)\,,\ ## I think you mean to have ##\ f(x,y,z)\ .##(It took me wayyyyyy tooooo long to type this in !)
Oh gosh, yes. I meant ##f(x,y,z)##. So sorry for the carelessness. I guess my brain is too tired of multivariable calculus.:wink:
 

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