Everage energy of a gas of quantom SHO

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The discussion centers around calculating the average energy of a gas of quantum simple harmonic oscillators (SHO). The original poster presents a formula involving summations and exponential terms, seeking clarification on how to manipulate these sums to derive the average energy expression.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to divide two summation equations but expresses uncertainty about handling the summations correctly. Some participants suggest using the provided summation formulas for simplification, while others question the interpretation of the variables involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the mathematical manipulation of the summations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to substitute the summation formulas into the average energy equation, but there is no consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the complexity of the problem and the interpretation of the division sign in the context of the summations. The original poster expresses concern about possibly overcomplicating the problem.

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The average energy of a gas of quantum SHO is

Eav= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}n\hbar\omega e^(-n\hbar\omega/kT)\div \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}e^(-n\hbar\omega/kT)

can be solved to be

Eav=\hbar\omega\div \left \{ e^\left ( \hbar\omega/kt \right ) \right \}-1

make use of the following two sums, true when [x]<1:

\sum_{n=o}^{\infty }x^n=1/(1-x)

\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}nx^n=x/(1-x)^2

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I tried dividing the two equations, and I think that is the right course of action, but I am not sure what to do with the summations, what I finally get looks like this:

\left \{\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} x^n\div \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}nx^n\right \}= 1/(x-x^2)

I am not sure, but can I just say:

n=1/\left ( x-x^2 \right )
b]3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b]
 
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Jason Gomez said:
\left \{\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} x^n\div \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}nx^n\right \}= 1/(x-x^2)

This is wrong. Use the provided formulas to plug in both of the fractions and do step by step simplification to find the correct expression. then, you will need to identify what x is in terms of the parameters given in the problem.
 
Thank you, I assume you mean plug in the summation equations that I am to make use of into the Eav equations provided, but I am not sure how. I think I may be making this problem harder than what it is, but I just can't rap my brain around it
 
You have a sum in the numerator and denominator of the expression. Both of them are evaluated for you in the statement of the problem.

Note:

The "\div" sign means division which is the same as a fraction line.
 

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