Explain to me the parallel axis theorem

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The discussion revolves around the parallel axis theorem in the context of rotational inertia, specifically focusing on a thin rod and its rotational inertia about different axes. Participants are exploring the relationship between the moment of inertia, the center of mass, and the distance from the center of mass to the pivot point.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the application of the parallel axis theorem, questioning the derivation of the distance 'd' and its impact on the moment of inertia calculation. There are discussions about the values of I_cm and the implications of the distances involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the calculations and clarifying the relationship between the center of mass and the pivot point. Some have offered guidance on determining the distance 'd' and its significance in the context of the problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a focus on understanding the theorem without providing direct solutions.

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hi there. can anyone please explain to me the parallel axis theorem? the parallel axis theorem states that I = I_cm + M(d^2) where d = distance from the center of mass axis to the parallel axis and M is the total mass of the object. The rotational inertia of a thin rod about the center is = (1/12)M(L^2) and the rotational inertia of a thin rod about the end is = (1/3)M(L^2). Here is a picture I need you to use to explain to me the parallel axis theorem. i just don't see how inertia of the bar is (1.33m_bar)(l^2)/12

http://session.masteringphysics.com/problemAsset/1003167/20/136675C.jpg

i will understand if no one will be able to help me.. thanks for reading :)
 
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jaded18 said:
hi there. can anyone please explain to me the parallel axis theorem? the parallel axis theorem states that I = I_cm + M(d^2) where d = distance from the center of mass axis to the parallel axis and M is the total mass of the object. The rotational inertia of a thin rod about the center is = (1/12)M(L^2) and the rotational inertia of a thin rod about the end is = (1/3)M(L^2). Here is a picture I need you to use to explain to me the parallel axis theorem. i just don't see how inertia of the bar is (1.33m_bar)(l^2)/12

http://session.masteringphysics.com/problemAsset/1003167/20/136675C.jpg

i will understand if no one will be able to help me.. thanks for reading :)
I_cm for the bar is as you noted. To detremine the I of the bar about the pivot point, the 'd' to use in the parallel axis theorem is the distance from the cm of the bar to the pivot point. What is that distance? The result as you indicated is the I of the bar about the pivot, not the I of the bar and point mass system.
 
I_cm = (1/12)(m_bar)(L^2) right?
M = m_bar right?
so what's this (d^2) thing. if i take the answer (which i don't understand how it was figured out) and subtract I_cm, then i get (m_bar)(l^2)/36, and I guess this is what that M(d^2) term is then ... but where the heck did this d=1/6 come from then??

i just want to know how they got the answer (1.33m_bar)(l^2)/12 and I know that this is the I of the bar about the pivot as this is different from the I of the bar and point mass system.
 
jaded18 said:
I_cm = (1/12)(m_bar)(L^2) right?
M = m_bar right?
so what's this (d^2) thing. if i take the answer (which i don't understand how it was figured out) and subtract I_cm, then i get (m_bar)(l^2)/36, and I guess this is what that M(d^2) term is then ... but where the heck did this d=1/6 come from then??

i just want to know how they got the answer (1.33m_bar)(l^2)/12 and I know that this is the I of the bar about the pivot as this is different from the I of the bar and point mass system.
assuming the length of the bar is L , the center of the bar is at L/2 from the left end, and the fulcrum pivot is L/3 from the left end. Thus the center is (L/2 -L/3) from the pivot, where L/2 - L/3 = L/6. that is the 'd'.
 
thanks lots for clearing that up ..
 
Distance of the cm of the bar from the left end = L/2
Distance of the pivot from the left end = L/3
Distance between the cm and pivot = L/2 - L/3 = L/6

Now determine MI about the pivot.
 

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