Explaining the Kinetic Gas Equation

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The discussion centers around the kinetic gas equation, specifically its relation to the ideal gas equation and its derivation from kinetic theory. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings and assumptions involved in these equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests an explanation of the kinetic gas equation, indicating a desire for clarity on the topic.
  • Another participant assumes the inquiry pertains to the ideal gas equation derived from kinetic theory and prompts the original poster to share their existing knowledge.
  • A participant expresses understanding of the ideal gas equation but distinguishes the kinetic gas equation as a separate concept within kinetic theory, presenting the equation as pV=nNu².
  • Further clarification is provided that the ideal gas equation can be derived through both experimental and theoretical methods, with the latter involving simplifying assumptions and Newton's laws applied to gas atoms.
  • It is noted that neither the ideal gas equation nor the kinetic gas equation is considered exactly correct, yet both are deemed useful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the kinetic gas equation, and multiple perspectives on its derivation and relation to the ideal gas equation are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions related to the applicability of the ideal gas law and the conditions under which the kinetic gas equation is derived, but these assumptions remain unresolved.

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can any 1 explain me kinetic gas equation!
thanks in advance.:shy:
 
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Hello rohannet,I am assuming you mean the ideal gas equation derived by using kinetic theory.Tell us what you already know and report back.
 
thank u for your interest in my question
i want to tell u that i have fully understood ideal gas equation
this kinetic gas equation is another thing but it also belongs to kinetic theory.
KINETIC GAS EQUATION EQUATION pV=nNu(square)
 
Hello Rohannet,The ideal gas equation is found by two methods.One method is experimental and gives the equation you are familiar with and the second method is theoretical.With the second method certain simplifying assumptions are made and Newtons laws applied to gas atoms moving in a box.The derivation is quite lengthy but you could easily find it with a search.Neither equation is exactly correct but nevertheless they are still useful.
 

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