Exploring Gravitation: A Review of Kip Thorne and John Wheeler's Book

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The discussion centers on the book "Gravitation" by Kip Thorne and John Wheeler, which is characterized as a technical textbook on general relativity (GR). Participants rate its difficulty around 4 out of 5, indicating it is quite challenging. Other notable GR textbooks mentioned include "Gravitation" by Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler (MTW), which is also considered difficult but valuable for reference. Wald's textbook is discussed as being terse and less pedagogical, yet rich in unique content. PAM Dirac's "General Relativity" is noted as particularly challenging. Carroll's graduate text is highlighted for its accessibility compared to Wald's. The conversation reflects a shared appreciation for these complex works, with some humor about the difficulty of exercises in Wald's book. Overall, the thread emphasizes the rigorous nature of studying general relativity through these texts.
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i wonder, the book by kip thorne and john wheeler called gravitation, is it a technical textbook on gr? and on a scale of 1-5 (1-easy 5 extremely hard) how would you rate this book?
are there any other challenging textbooks on GR?
 
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neutrino, i too hope that someday i would have a spare time to read this monumental textbook. (that with the principia mathematica by russel and whitehead are hardcore texts in their respective fields).
 
Gravitation is the one that I studied, and I highly recommend. I have read Wald's book, and I don't think that it is as pedogagical as is Gravitation (though I have a slight bias).

Or you could look into PAM Dirac's "General Relativity", it's probably the hardest book I've read on General Relativity.
 
Wald's book is a tough nut, very terse and not very friendly, but it still has much material not found in other books.

I recently got Carroll's graduate text, and it's much more friendly than Wald. But I paid $70 for a used copy. :eek:

Can anyone claim to have read all of MTW? What a monster. Still a cool book to dip into now and then.
 
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Wald's book is a tough nut, very terse and not very friendly, but it still has much material not found in other books.

I find amusing what Wald said about the exercises in his book: ' ... and none (exercises) which are, in my opinion, inordinately difficult (i.e., I think I can solve them).'

This, from one of the world's leading experts on relativity!

I recently got Carroll's graduate text, and it's much more friendly than Wald. But I paid $70 for a used copy. :eek:

Chapter 9 is worth the price of admission.

Can anyone claim to have read all of MTW? What a monster.

Not me.

Still a cool book to dip into now and then.

It's sitting open on my desk as I type.
 
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