Exponential Equation System: Solving 3^xy=2^yx and 12^xx=3^y4

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The discussion centers on solving the exponential equation system 3^xy=2^yx and 12^xx=3^y4. Participants highlight the complexity of the equations, noting that they may not be solvable using elementary functions. A suggestion is made to use logarithmic properties and change of base for further simplification. Despite attempts to manipulate the equations, there is uncertainty about finding a definitive solution. The conversation emphasizes the challenges inherent in solving such transcendental equations.
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Homework Statement


Solve this system of equations:

3^xy=2^yx
12^xx=3^y4

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The Attempt at a Solution



I was solving and came up, till here:
x=\frac{3^xy}{2^y}
6^y4=36^x

Please help. Thanks.
 
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Actually I'm surprised you were able to get that far! Most equations that involve variables both "inside" and "outside" transcendental functions cannot be solved in terms of elementary functions.

Once you are at
6^y4= 36^x= (6^2)^x= 6^{2x}
You can take the logarithm of both sides:
y ln(6)+ ln 4= 2x ln 5
Where you would go from there, I have no idea.
 
This system of equations have no solution?
 
I didn't say that. It said it might not be possible to solve it using elementary functions.
 
The actual problem was:

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But I simplify it to the one above.
 
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Try using change of base of the logarithm functions first, and then try. Put then into either base 2 or base 3. I have not tried this in your exercise but believe it's worth trying.
 
I tried on several ways and it didn't worked.

btw- on the first post should be:
<br /> 6^y4=36^xy<br />
 
Use Hall of Ivy substitution

in the above equation: (6^2x)y=(6^y)4.
 
Maybe
log_66^y4=log_66^2xy

y+log_64=2x+log_6y

But where I will go out of herE?
 
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