Expressing expectation values of a particle moving in a periodic potential

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The discussion focuses on expressing expectation values for a particle in a periodic potential described by a specific Hamiltonian. Participants are tasked with deriving expressions for the time derivatives of position and momentum in terms of their respective expectation values. The initial confusion revolves around calculating these expectation values directly from the Hamiltonian, with a suggestion to avoid integrating operators. Ehrenfest's theorem is highlighted as a key tool to derive the necessary relationships for solving the problem. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding these theoretical frameworks to approach the homework effectively.
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Homework Statement


A particle moving in a periodic potential has one-dimensional dynamics according to a Hamiltonian ## \hat H = \hat p_x^2/2m+V_0(1-cos(\hat x))##

a) Express ## \frac{d <\hat x>}{dt}## in terms of ##<\hat p_x>##.
b) Express ## \frac{d <\hat p_x>}{dt}## in terms of ##<sin(\hat x)>##.
c) Write a time-dependent Schrödinger equation for this problem in real space.

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Let's start with a. I am highly confused here, but there seems to be various routes I can go.

Usually I would calculate the expectation value <x> from a wave function. Can I still do this here with the Hamiltonian? Just straight up integrate H*xH over all space and then take that derivative and find a way to express it in terms of <px> (thus I'd have to take the expectation value for the momentum of the Hamiltonian?

I've been trying some things but running into a wall with this method.
Any tips on how to start off this problem would be great, I can then work on it and get back to this thread.
 
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No you definitely do not want to try to integrate the operators.

Ehrenfest's theorem gives you a very useful set of relations that you can use to solve this problem.
 
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