Ferris Wheel Problem: Find r, ω, Times for 80ft Height

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The Ferris wheel problem involves a wheel with a radius of 100 feet rotating at a constant angular speed. The rider takes 5 seconds to reach a height of 44 feet, allowing for the calculation of angular speed, which is found to be approximately 0.188 rad/sec. The rider's height can be modeled using parametric equations, and the height of 80 feet can be determined by solving the sine function, which leads to multiple potential solutions due to its periodic nature. The discussion highlights the need to account for these periodic solutions when calculating the times the rider reaches 80 feet. Understanding the sine function's properties is crucial for finding all relevant times during the ride.
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Homework Statement


A Ferris wheel of radius 100 feet is rotating at a constant angular speed ω rad/sec counterclockwise. Using a stopwatch, the rider finds it takes 5 seconds to go from the lowest point on the ride to a point Q, which is level with the top of a 44 ft pole. Assume the lowest point of the ride is 3 feet above ground level.

Let Q(t)=(x(t),y(t)) be the coordinates of the rider at time t seconds; i.e., the parametric equations. Assuming the rider begins at the lowest point on the wheel, then the parametric equations will have the form: x(t)=rcos(ωt-π/2) and y(t)=rsin(ωt -π/2), where r,ω can be determined from the information given. Provide answers below accurate to 3 decimal places. (Note: We have imposed a coordinate system so that the center of the ferris wheel is the origin. There are other ways to impose coordinates, leading to different parametric equations.)

Find r, find ω. During the first revolution find the times when the riders height is 80ft.


Homework Equations


x(t)=rcos(ωt-π/2)
y(t)=rsin(ωt -π/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


The radius is obviously already given to me. To find ω I drew a triangle with vertices at the origin, Q, and at (0, 44). The hypotenuse was 100 ft, and the adjacent side to the angle I was trying to find was (103-44) or 59 ft. To find the angle I need I found the inverse cosine of (59/100) and divided it by 5. The angular speed rounded to 3 decimal places is .188

To find the times when the rider's height is 80ft is where I'm having problems. According to the problem the origin is the center of the wheel does that mean I set y=(80-103)?
 
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Cascadian said:
does that mean I set y=(80-103)?
Looks right to me.
 
Thank you, turns out I was on the right track. Here's what I did.

-23=100sin(.1879474972t-π/2)
-.23=sin.1879474972t-π/2
-.2320776829=.1879474972t-π/2
t=7.123

Now the problem is I'm not sure how to find the second time.
 
When you invert the sine function you get, in principle, infinitely many solutions. What are all the values of arcsin(sin(x))?
 
All I knew is this.
arcsin(sin.1879474972t-π/2)=1879474972t-π/2

Did I do something wrong or what should I do?
 
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