Fibonacci Cubed Recurrence Relation

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The discussion revolves around finding and proving a recurrence relation for the Fibonacci cubed sequence, which involves cubing each element of the Fibonacci sequence. The original poster presents a proposed recurrence relation and seeks assistance in proving it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to prove the recurrence relation by induction but encounters difficulties with the n+1 case. They inquire about potential identities or methods to further their proof.
  • Some participants question the clarity of the term "Fibonacci cubed" and suggest that a definition or more context is needed for effective assistance.
  • Another participant suggests exploring a simpler case, specifically the Fibonacci square sequence, as a potential pathway to understanding the Fibonacci cubed relation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches and clarifying definitions. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative sequences, but no consensus has been reached on the original problem.

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There is a mention of a publication related to the Fibonacci cubed sequence that some participants may not have access to, which could impact the depth of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Find and prove the recurrence relation for the Fibonacci cubed sequence.

Homework Equations


By observation (blankly staring at the sequence for an hour) I've decided that the recurrence relation is G_{n} = 3G_{n-1} + 6G_{n-2} - 3G_{n-3} - G_{n-4}

(where G is Fibonacci cubed)

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempt was going to be to prove by induction, but for the n+1 case, I got:
G_{n+1} = G_{n} + F_{n}*F_{n+1}*F_{n-1} + G_{n-1}

Is there an identity that could get me further? Is there a different method anyone could suggest? Is there anything I can do at all?

edit: all that superscript is supposed to be subscript... I'm not sure what happened...
 
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I fear your question is esoteric enough that help will be hard to find without a definition of "fibonacci cubed" (or more specifically the sequence, since you do not know the relation). It doesn't seem like a hard question - just an obscure one. (Amusingly enough the first google result for "fibonacci cubed" is this thread!)

My guess is LaTeX fouled up because you didn't properly anchor the subscripts to something.
 
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Since the Fibonacci sequence is 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,... the Fibonacci Cubed sequence is 0,1,1,8,27,125,512... it's just cubing each element of the Fibonacci sequence. Upon further research, I found that that rule was found and proven by Zeitlin and Parker and published in the Fibonacci Quarterly in 1963... not that I have access to that publication, but if any of you do, or find out how it was done, or have any advice, it'd be greatly appreciated!
 
I think an easier approach would be to solve a simpler case first. Have you tried deriving the equation for a "fibonacci square" sequence? I assume a similar approach would follow for your case:

Let H_n denote the nth fibonacci square

H_n = (F_n)^2 = (F_{n-1}+F_{n-2})^2 = H_{n-1} + H_{n-2} + 2F_{n-1}F_{n-2}

Using the substitution selectively that F_{n-1} = F_{n-2} + F_{n-3}, H_{n-1}+H_{n-2}+2F_{n-1}F_{n-2}=H_{n-1}+H_{n-2}+2(F_{n-2}+F_{n-3})F_{n-2} = H_{n-1}+H_{n-2}+2(F_{n-2})^2 + 2F_{n-2}F_{n-3}.

The trick is then to add and subtract (F_{n-3})^2:

H_{n-1}+2H_{n-2}+(F_{n-2})^2 + 2F_{n-2}F_{n-3} + (F_{n-3})^2 - (F_{n-3})^2 = 2H_{n-1}+2H_{n-2}-H_{n-3}.
 
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