Fibonacci sequence problem (simple?)

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression $\sum_{1}^{n} F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-1}$, with participants exploring identities related to Fibonacci numbers. One suggested approach involves using the relationship $F_{2i} = F_{2i-1} + F_{2i-2}$ to reformulate the sum. The conversation also touches on the challenge of using LaTeX for mathematical expressions, highlighting issues with code visibility on the forum. Participants are encouraged to apply known Fibonacci identities to derive a simpler form of the sum. The problem remains a point of frustration for the original poster, indicating its complexity despite being labeled as introductory.
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Homework Statement


Write the following expression in a simpler form:
$\sum_{1}^{n} F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-1}$

It doesn't have to be closed-form, probably something on the line of:
$\sum_{0}^{n} F_{i}^{2} = F_{n} \cdot F_{n+1}$

(We define the sequence the ususal way, starting the indexing from 0 with the first element itself being 0. So the first 6 elements from i=0 to i=5 are: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5)

Homework Equations


The second equation from part 1.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is my first serious self-study effort, aimed at properly learning analysis. This problem appears in the first, introductory chapter of my book with topics like methods of proof, induction, sets. I solved all the other problems and went on to the next chapter, but this is still bugging me... :) Especially, since it's only in the introductory chapter, it's supposed to be "easy"... :)
I applied the formula in section 2. and now I'm stuck.
 
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What identities do you know for Fibonacci numbers?

Since F2i = F2i-1 + F2i-2, you might try solving this for F2i-1, then plug this back into your sum to get one sum minus another.

F2i · F2i-1 = F2i · (F2i - F2i-2) = F2i · (F2i - F2(i-1))
 
Thx, I'll try. For example:

Since:
$F_{n-1} = F_{n} + F_{n-2}$
Then:
$F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-1} = F_{2i}^2 - F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-2}$
Now use:
$F_{n+1} \cdot F_{n-1} = F_{n}^2 + (-1)^n$
...

We'll see :)

EDIT: why isn't the latex code showing properly? :(
 
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EDIT: why isn't the latex code showing properly? :(
There is a quirky feature to using LaTeX on this site. After hitting "Preview Post" or "Submit Reply", you must hit your browser's "Refresh button". Apparently, some cache memory doesn't get cleared properly.
 
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