Final tomorrow loop/mesh analysis using supermeshes

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The discussion revolves around applying loop analysis and supermesh techniques to solve circuit problems involving resistors. Participants are attempting to find the current through a 2 ohm resistor and the voltage across a 10 ohm resistor using Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and related equations.

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  • One participant presents their equations for loop analysis and expresses confusion about their results, suspecting issues with their supermesh approach or algebra.
  • Another participant provides a proposed solution for the first problem, indicating they have drawn a diagram to assist with understanding.
  • A third participant outlines their own approach to the second problem, detailing their equations derived from loop analysis and supermesh, and introduces a node equation to relate variables.
  • Participants share their findings and methods, with one expressing appreciation for the help received.

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There is no consensus on the correct solution, as participants present different approaches and results. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the methods used.

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Participants' solutions depend on their interpretations of the circuit and the application of KVL. There are indications of missing assumptions or potential algebraic errors, but these remain unaddressed.

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Homework Statement


1 for picture38... apply loop analysis to find the current through the 2 ohm resistor
2 for picture39... apply loop analysis to find the voltage across the 10 ohm resistor


Homework Equations


v=ir
kvl

The Attempt at a Solution


i'm using a, b, c etc as current labels as well as loop names
1)loop a
4a+4(a-b)+4(a-c)=0
condenses to 3a-2b=0

supermesh c&b
-10+8(c-a)+4(b-a)+2b=0

using 2=c-b

condenses to 7b-6a=-3

i get b=1/3... which is so not right...

so wat am i doing wrong??

2)
loop a
4a+75+a+10(a-b)=0

2=c-b

supermesh c&b

-25+2c+10(b-a)+3c=0

wat am i doing wrong again?

i guess supermesh is my problem... or maybe the algebra... but i don't get it... at all.. got an exam tomorrow... so please help quick
thankyou
 

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Solution to first problem..

Hi mate, I've drawn up a dodgy solution in paint for you, it should help you :)
 

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Number 2)

I got for loop a:
4a + a + 10a - 10b +75 = 0
15a - 10b = -75 -----(1)

then for supermesh:
-25 + 2c + 10b - 10a + 3c = 0
-10a + 10b + 5c = 25 ----(2)

then at node N (the node to which the 2A source arrow points)

2 + b - c = 0 therefore c = b+2 ----(3)

sub (3) into (2) then you have two easy eqs to solve

Using KVL at the node is basically your control eq.. it let's you reduce the ueqs down so you can solve them.
 
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thankyou andrew... that rhymes :P
i'm going to save this for future reference.. the solutions that is..
 

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