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The discussion revolves around finding the angle \(\alpha\) from the equation involving the tangent function, specifically \(tg\alpha=\frac{(1+tg1)(1+tg2)-2}{(1-tg1)(1-tg2)-2}\). Participants are exploring how to derive \(\alpha\) from this equation, with an emphasis on understanding the components involved.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Some participants attempt to manipulate the equation algebraically to isolate \(\alpha\), while others question the meaning of the terms \(tg1\) and \(tg2\). There is also a focus on clarifying whether \(tg\) refers to the tangent function.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the interpretation of the tangent function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the algebraic manipulation of the equation, but there is no consensus on the exact method to obtain the value of \(\alpha\) in degrees.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that \(\alpha\) is in the first quadrant and are seeking an exact numerical value in degrees, rather than a symbolic expression. There is a noted confusion regarding the notation used for the tangent function.

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Homework Statement


If we are given an equation that equals [tex]tg\alpha[/tex], and we need to find out how much is [tex]\alpha[/tex], how would we do it, having in mind the equation bellow?

Homework Equations


[tex]tg\alpha=\frac{(1+tg1)(1+tg2)-2}{(1-tg1)(1-tg2)-2}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Since i know the answer (i looked it up, and it's 42 degrees), I'm guessing that the right side, when its solved, we should get [tex]tg42[/tex], but how to do it?

I tried multiplying, but with no luck. Is there an elegant solution.
 
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Chuckster said:

Homework Statement


If we are given an equation that equals [tex]tg\alpha[/tex], and we need to find out how much is [tex]\alpha[/tex], how would we do it, having in mind the equation bellow?


Homework Equations


[tex]tg\alpha=\frac{(1+tg1)(1+tg2)-2}{(1-tg1)(1-tg2)-2}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


Since i know the answer (i looked it up, and it's 42 degrees), I'm guessing that the right side, when its solved, we should get [tex]tg42[/tex], but how to do it?

I tried multiplying, but with no luck. Is there an elegant solution.
The left side is just tg times [tex]\alpha[/tex]? The just divide both sides by tg:

[tex]\alpha= \frac{(1+tg1)(1+tg2)-2}{tg((1-tg1)(1-tg2)-2)}[/tex]

Now, as to what the right side should be, what are t, g, g1, and g2?
 
By tgw, do you mean tan(w) for an angle w? if so, then say it. What you have *written* is a product: t times g times w.

Anyway, if tgw means tan(w), then your equation has a solution alpha = arctan{[(1 + t1)*(1 + t2)-2]/[1 - t1)*(1 - t2) - 2]}, where t1 and t2 are your tg1 and tg2---whatever they may mean. Of course, the solution is not unique because we may add or subtract an integer multiple of pi to the angle and still satisfy the equation.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
By tgw, do you mean tan(w) for an angle w? if so, then say it. What you have *written* is a product: t times g times w.

Anyway, if tgw means tan(w), then your equation has a solution alpha = arctan{[(1 + t1)*(1 + t2)-2]/[1 - t1)*(1 - t2) - 2]}, where t1 and t2 are your tg1 and tg2---whatever they may mean. Of course, the solution is not unique because we may add or subtract an integer multiple of pi to the angle and still satisfy the equation.

RGV

it is tg(alpha), and alpha is in the first quadrant!
also, i need the exact size, in degrees.
 
Will you please answer Ray Vickson's question: does tgx or tg(x) mean tangent of x?

If, indeed, "tgx" or "tg(x)" means tan(x) then Ray Vickson's response is perfectly good answer. What more do you want?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Will you please answer Ray Vickson's question: does tgx or tg(x) mean tangent of x?

If, indeed, "tgx" or "tg(x)" means tan(x) then Ray Vickson's response is perfectly good answer. What more do you want?

I thought i made it clear - yes, it is tangentg of x.

As i said, i already knew that
alpha=arctg of the right side.

But i need how to exactly GET the value of alpha.
I hope you understand where I'm going at?

How much is alpha - in degrees - rather than it is arctg of the expression on the right.
I hope you understood what i meant.
 
Chuckster said:
I thought i made it clear - yes, it is tangentg of x.

As i said, i already knew that
alpha=arctg of the right side.

But i need how to exactly GET the value of alpha.
I hope you understand where I'm going at?

How much is alpha - in degrees - rather than it is arctg of the expression on the right.
I hope you understood what i meant.

Write tan(42)=tan(45-(1+2)) and apply tangent sum and difference rules to it.
 

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