Find an isomorphism between the group of orientation

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The discussion revolves around finding an isomorphism between the group of orientation-preserving rigid motions of the plane, which include translations and rotations, and a specific set of complex-valued matrices. The original poster attempts to define this isomorphism but encounters issues with the multiplication of the defined components.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the decomposition of rigid motions into rotation and translation components, questioning the clarity and definitions used by the original poster. There are inquiries about the nature of the mappings and whether the definitions provided are consistent and valid.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the original poster's definitions and intentions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for clearer definitions and the possibility of exploring fractional linear transformations, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to the problem.

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There are indications of ambiguity in the original poster's definitions, particularly regarding the terms "rotation part" and "translation." The discussion also highlights the need for a clear understanding of the decomposition of rigid motions, as well as the relationship between the defined mappings and their mathematical representations.

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I need to find an isomorphism between the group of orientation preserving rigid motions of the plane (translations, rotations) and complex valued matrices of the form

a b
0 1

where |a|=1.

I defined an isomorphism where the rotation part goes to e^it with angle t and the translation by l=ax+by to b=a+bi. But the multiplication doesn't work out.
 
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I defined an isomorphism where the rotation part goes to e^it with angle t and the translation by l=ax+by to b=a+bi. But the multiplication doesn't work out.
The rotation part goes to eit? It's supposed to go to a matrix, eit is not a matrix. The translation goes to b=a+bi? I don't even know what this means. Is the b on the left side the same as the one on the right side? And again, a+bi is a number, not a matrix, so how can the translation go to a+bi? Moreover, what exactly do you mean by "the rotation part" and "the translation"? I assume you mean that any rigid motion can be decomposed some how into a translation part and rotation part. But have you proved that this is possible? And do you realize that if f is an arbitrary orientation preserving rigid motion, then it can be decomposed into a rotation and translation like so: f = rt for some rotation r and some translation t, and can also be decomposed f = r't', for some rotation r' and some translation t', but prima facie, r' need not equal r and t' need not equal t, so when you speak of "the rotation part" it's ambiguous until you say whether you're decomposing rotation-first or translation-first.

Once you write out something that's clear, unambiguous, and makes sense, we can suggest ways to get passed wherever you're getting stuck, but right now I don't know how to help you. Actually, you haven't even asked a question.
 
(a priori, not prima facie)
 
Every orientation preserving rigid motion can be written as [tex]\rho_{\theta}t_a[/tex] where [tex]0\leq\theta <2\pi[/tex] and [tex]a=a_1x_1+a_2x_2[/tex]. Define a map [tex]f(\rho_{\theta}t_a)=\left(\begin{array}{cc}{e^{i\theta}}&{a_1+a_2i}\\0&1\end{array}\right)[/tex]. Clear enough now?
 
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Okay, so you've tried one thing that doesn't work. What exactly do you want now? I ask because I'm having trouble thinking of a hint, so it would help me if I had a more specific question to answer. Do you know anything about fractional linear transformations, a.k.a. Mobius transformations?
 
I already solved it.
 
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