Find angle between planes (011) and (001)

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The discussion revolves around finding the angle between the planes represented by the Miller indices (011) and (001) in a cubic crystal structure. Participants are exploring the geometric and mathematical relationships between these planes.

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  • The original poster attempts to normalize vectors corresponding to the planes and calculate the angle using the dot product. Some participants question the calculations and the necessity of normalization, suggesting that the angle can be derived directly from the properties of the Miller indices.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the calculations and questioning the assumptions made about normalization and the dot product. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between the Miller indices and the geometric interpretation of the planes.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector normalization and the implications of Miller indices in determining angles between planes. There is an indication of confusion regarding the calculations and the interpretation of results.

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Please help me!
Find angle between planes (011) and (001)?
 
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Thanks spo much!
So according to that
to find the angle btw planes (011) and (001) in a cubic crystal (they are perpendicular) I need to normalize vectors.

Normalizing vectors:
ll v ll = sqrt( 0^2 +1^2+1^2)= sqrt(2)

llwll = sqrt (0^2 + 0^2 +1^2)= 1


v vector normalized:
x/1.41= 0/1.41= 0
y/1.41= 0.71
z/1.41= 0.71
v = 0.71j +0.71 k

w vector normalized:
x/1=0/1= 0
y/1=0/1= 0
z/1=1/1=1
w = k

v dot w= 0.71+0.71= 1.41

then, the angle theta between planes (011) and (001)
theta= v dot w/( llvll * llwll)
theta= inverse of cosine ( 1.41/( sqrt (2)) (sqrt(1))= 1.41/ sqrt (2) (1))
theta= inverse cosine (0.997)
theta= 4.4

DOes this make sense?
if I do inverse cosine of 0.997 I get theta= 4.4
but I do inverse cosine of 1 I get angle is 0

not sure what I'm doing wrong =( please some help!
 
(011) and (001) in a cubic crystal (they are perpendicular)
... how do you figure that?
v dot w= 0.71+0.71= 1.41
...don't think so. How did you get this result?

Note: It helps to explicitly keep √2 like that instead of converting to a decimal.
theta= v dot w/( llvll * llwll)
... yes - though ||v||=||w||=1 because you just normalized them didn't you?

To understand this approach:
The strategy is to find a vector perpendicular to each plane - related to the Miller indices how?
The angle between the planes is the angle between these two vectors.

I don't think you need to normalize them - just turns the dot product into the cosine of the angle.
The problem wants you to understand what the Miller notation is telling you.
 
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