Find lim using L'Hopital Rule

  • Thread starter Kreizhn
  • Start date
  • Tags
    l'hopital
In summary, the conversation discusses finding the limit of a function using L'Hopital's rule. The solution is determined to be 1/6, but there is confusion over a simplification step that would suggest the limit does not exist. It is concluded that this simplification is not permitted after applying L'Hopital's rule and the limit is finite.
  • #1
Kreizhn
743
1

Homework Statement


Find
[tex] \lim_{x\to0} \frac{\arcsin(x)-x}{x^3} [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


This is obviously an indeterminate form, so we apply L'hopital's rule to get

[tex] \lim_{x\to0} \frac{\frac1{\sqrt{1-x^2}} - 1 }{ 3x^3} [/tex]
which is again an indeterminate form so we apply it again to get
[tex] \lim_{x\to0} \frac{(1-x^2)^{-\frac32}}6 [/itex]
from which the solution is obviously [itex] \frac16 [/itex].

However, this is my question. After the first application of L'Hopital, we could have simplified
[tex] \lim_{x\to0} \frac{\frac1{\sqrt{1-x^2}} - 1 }{ 3x^3} = \lim_{x\to0} \frac{1-\sqrt{1-x^2}}{3x^2\sqrt{1-x^2}} [/tex]
This is no longer an indeterminate form and would suggest that the limit does not exist. Is there any justification for why this can't be done? Possibly, do we know that either: 1) This simplification is not permitted after applying L'Hopital or 2) We know the limit exists and is finite and so are forced to apply L'Hopital yet again?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Why do you think lim x->0 of (1-sqrt(1-x^2))/(3*x^2*sqrt(1-x^2)) isn't indeterminant? It looks like 0/0 to me.
 
  • #3
Haha, yes. The ability to subtract has apparently escaped me. Thanks
 

1. What is L'Hopital's rule?

L'Hopital's rule is a mathematical technique used to evaluate the limit of a function that is in an indeterminate form, such as 0/0 or ∞/∞. It states that if the limit of the ratio of two functions is in an indeterminate form, then the limit of the ratio of their derivatives is equal to the original limit.

2. When should I use L'Hopital's rule?

You should use L'Hopital's rule when you have a limit that is in an indeterminate form, and you are unable to evaluate it using other methods, such as direct substitution or algebraic manipulation.

3. What are the conditions for applying L'Hopital's rule?

The conditions for applying L'Hopital's rule are that the limit must be in an indeterminate form, and the functions in the numerator and denominator must be differentiable in a neighborhood around the limit point.

4. Are there any limitations to using L'Hopital's rule?

Yes, there are limitations to using L'Hopital's rule. It can only be applied when the limit is in an indeterminate form, and it does not work for all types of indeterminate forms, such as ∞ - ∞ or 0 * ∞. Additionally, it may not always give the correct answer, so it should be used with caution.

5. Can L'Hopital's rule be used for limits at infinity?

Yes, L'Hopital's rule can be used for limits at infinity. In this case, you will need to take the limit of the function as x approaches either positive or negative infinity, and then apply the rule as usual.

Similar threads

  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
17
Views
616
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
14
Views
1K
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
955
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
6
Views
944
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
965
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
711
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
874
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
10
Views
827
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
876
Replies
4
Views
1K
Back
Top