Find Maclaurin Series for g(x) with 5 Derivs of f(x)=sec(x)

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The problem involves finding the Maclaurin series for the function g(x) = sec(x)(1 + tan(x)) by first calculating the first five derivatives of f(x) = sec(x). The goal is to deduce the series up to the term of order x^4.

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of calculating five derivatives of sec(x) and question how this relates to simplifying the process of finding the Maclaurin series for g(x).
  • Some participants suggest that computing the series for sec(x) separately and then multiplying by the series for 1 + tan(x) may be a more efficient approach.
  • There is confusion regarding the role of the fifth derivative and its relevance to obtaining the x^4 term in the series.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the hint provided in the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the potential efficiency of separating the series computations, but there is still uncertainty about the implications of the fifth derivative.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem requires evaluating derivatives at x = 0 and that the series is a sum of powers of x. There is also mention of the complexity involved in differentiating sec(x) multiple times.

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Work out the first five derivatives of the function f(x)=sec(x), and hence deduce the Maclaurin series of g(x)=sec(x)(1+tan(x)) up to and including the term of order x^4.

(Hint: why have you been asked for five derivatives of f(x)?)

The Maclaurin series for function g(x) is given by g(x)=\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{g^{k}(0)}{k!}x^k
I know how to differentiate g(x), and although it would take a long time, I could differentiate g(x) 4 times, evaluate the derivatives at x=0 and substitute the values in the series equation above to deduce the Maclaurin series up to the x^4 term. But I'm not sure how differentiating f(x)=sec(x) 5 times would make this problem less time consuming. In short, I do not understand the hint. Could someone please explain the hint? Thanks.
 
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subzero0137 said:
Work out the first five derivatives of the function f(x)=sec(x), and hence deduce the Maclaurin series of g(x)=sec(x)(1+tan(x)) up to and including the term of order x^4.

(Hint: why have you been asked for five derivatives of f(x)?)




The Maclaurin series for function g(x) is given by g(x)=\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{g^{k}(0)}{k!}x^k



I know how to differentiate g(x), and although it would take a long time, I could differentiate g(x) 4 times, evaluate the derivatives at x=0 and substitute the values in the series equation above to deduce the Maclaurin series up to the x^4 term. But I'm not sure how differentiating f(x)=sec(x) 5 times would make this problem less time consuming. In short, I do not understand the hint. Could someone please explain the hint? Thanks.

This is a Maclaurin series, so 1) each derivative is evaluated at x = 0, and 2) it's a sum of powers of x. Once you get to the 5th derivative of sec(x) I think you'll see what the hint is about.
 
Mark44 said:
This is a Maclaurin series, so 1) each derivative is evaluated at x = 0, and 2) it's a sum of powers of x. Once you get to the 5th derivative of sec(x) I think you'll see what the hint is about.

The 5th derivative of sec(x) is tan(x)sec(x)(120sec^4(x)-60sec^(x)+1). Sorry, but I still don't get the hint.
 
subzero0137 said:
The 5th derivative of sec(x) is tan(x)sec(x)(120sec^4(x)-60sec^(x)+1). Sorry, but I still don't get the hint.
That looks fine. So with f(x) = sec(x), you have f(5)(x) = tan(x)sec(x)(120sec^4(x)-60sec^(x)+1).
What is f(5)(0)?
 
subzero0137 said:
The 5th derivative of sec(x) is tan(x)sec(x)(120sec^4(x)-60sec^(x)+1). Sorry, but I still don't get the hint.

I think the sense of the hint is that you should compute the Maclaurin series of sec(x) up to power x^4 and then multiply by the Maclaurin series of 1+tan(x), rather than computing the series of sec(x)(1+tan(x)) directly. The differentiation is easier.
 
Mark44 said:
That looks fine. So with f(x) = sec(x), you have f(5)(x) = tan(x)sec(x)(120sec^4(x)-60sec^(x)+1).
What is f(5)(0)?

f(5)(0) = 0

Dick said:
I think the sense of the hint is that you should compute the Maclaurin series of sec(x) up to power x^4 and then multiply by the Maclaurin series of 1+tan(x), rather than computing the series of sec(x)(1+tan(x)) directly. The differentiation is easier.

Oh, I see. But to compute the Maclaurin series for sec(x) up to the power x^4, I only need to differentiate it 4 times. Why did the question ask for the 5th derivative of sec(x)?
 
I figured the hint had to do with the fact that ##g(x) = f(x) + f'(x)##.
 
vela said:
I figured the hint had to do with the fact that ##g(x) = f(x) + f'(x)##.

Ohhhh! How did I miss that...

I now understand why they asked for 5 derivatives of sec(x). It's so that I can obtain the x4 order term for the Maclaurin series of ##f'(x)##.

Thanks for the replies, everyone :)
 
vela said:
I figured the hint had to do with the fact that ##g(x) = f(x) + f'(x)##.

Ohhh. Tricky!
 

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