Find the angular speed at t=3 seconds

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular speed of a shaft with a non-constant angular acceleration given by α = -10 rad/s² - 5t rad/s³. At t = 3 seconds, the angular acceleration is determined to be -25 rad/s². The initial angular speed is 65.0 rad/s, but the kinematic equations for constant acceleration cannot be applied due to the variable nature of α. Instead, differential equations must be used to accurately solve for the angular speed and distance turned. The participants confirm that the initial approach was incorrect due to the assumption of constant angular acceleration.
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Homework Statement


A shaft is turning at 65.0 rad/s at time zero. Thereafter, its angular acceleration is given by α = -10 rad/s 2 - 5t rad/s 3 where t is the elapsed time. (a) Find its angular speed at t = 3.00 s. (b) How far does it turn in the 3.00 s seconds?

t=3 seconds
wi= 65.0 rad/s
α = -10 rad/s 2 - 5t rad/s 3

Homework Equations


Wf=Wi+αt where α is the angular acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution


since α = -10 - 5t (1)
at t= 3 seconds
by substitution in (1):
α= -25 rad/s2

From Kinematic equation:
wf=wi+αt
wf=65-25(3)= -10 rad /sI found a different answer in the solutions so please tell me why my answer is incorrect.
 
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Looks like you tried to solve it by using an equation restricted to constant angular acceleration. Is the angular acceleration constant in this problem? You calculated α at t = 3 s, but that's not the angular acceleration at other instants of time between t = 0 and t = 3 s.
 
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TSny said:
Looks like you tried to solve it by using an equation restricted to constant angular acceleration. Is the angular acceleration constant in this problem?
Yes it isn't constant. So basically i can't use kinematic equations if the acceleration isn't constant??
 
Neon32 said:
Yes it isn't constant. So basically i can't use kinematic equations if the acceleration isn't constant??
Yes. You need to use differential equations w.r.t. time.
 
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cnh1995 said:
Yes. You need to use differential equations w.r.t. time.

Alright. Thanks both of you for the help. Appreciated :)
 
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