Find the change in kinetic energy of the car

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car that comes to rest after hitting a tree. Participants are tasked with finding the change in kinetic energy, the work done, and the force exerted during the impact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of kinetic energy and the implications of the change in kinetic energy when the car stops. Some question the assumptions regarding constant deceleration for calculating force, while others suggest using the work-energy theorem.

Discussion Status

Several participants have made progress on parts of the problem, particularly parts a and b. There is ongoing exploration regarding part c, with different interpretations of the problem's requirements and assumptions being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the vagueness of question c and the need to clarify assumptions about deceleration and the nature of the forces involved. There is also mention of the average force in relation to the work done and distance.

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Homework Statement


A 2436 kg car has a speed of 10.7 m/s when it hits a tree. The tree doesn’t move and the
car comes to rest.
a) Find the change in kinetic energy of the car.
b) Find the amount of work done by the car as its front is pushed in.
c) Find the magnitude of the force that pushed the front of the car in by 54 cm.

Homework Equations


Kinetic energy=1/2mass*speed^2


The Attempt at a Solution


1/2*2436(10.7^2)=139449J of kinetic energy now what
 
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hcps-chent1 said:

Homework Statement


A 2436 kg car has a speed of 10.7 m/s when it hits a tree. The tree doesn’t move and the
car comes to rest.
a) Find the change in kinetic energy of the car.
b) Find the amount of work done by the car as its front is pushed in.
c) Find the magnitude of the force that pushed the front of the car in by 54 cm.

Homework Equations


Kinetic energy=1/2mass*speed^2


The Attempt at a Solution


1/2*2436(10.7^2)=139449J of kinetic energy now what
Punt. :biggrin: Or since the problem asks for the change in KE, how much KE does it have when it stops, and what is its change? Then think the Work-Energy theorem.
 
got a and b now what about c
 
question C seems like its a little bit vague. This is my take on it. The car is going 10.7 m/s, and stops to 0 m/s in a distance of 54 centimetres. If you assume that it stops through a constant deceleration (which it probably wouldn't in a real situation), you can find out that deceleration. Once you've found that, you have the mass of the vehicle, and the deceleration of the vehicle, and you should be able to find the magnitude of the force.
 
dacruick said:
question C seems like its a little bit vague. This is my take on it. The car is going 10.7 m/s, and stops to 0 m/s in a distance of 54 centimetres. If you assume that it stops through a constant deceleration (which it probably wouldn't in a real situation), you can find out that deceleration. Once you've found that, you have the mass of the vehicle, and the deceleration of the vehicle, and you should be able to find the magnitude of the force.
Or you could apply the definition of work. The force calculated is an average force.
 
Divide the work done (part b) by distance (0.54 m).

W = Fd
F = W/d
 
thanks
 
haha yeah that's definitely the right way. for some reason i read that it was a work and energy problem, and then decided to not take that into account during my response
 

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