Find the coefficient of friction

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The problem involves a box weighing 3.0 kN in a pick-up truck that accelerates to 40 km/h over 40 m, during which the box slides back 1.0 m. The initial calculations to find the acceleration were incorrect, leading to an erroneous coefficient of friction of 0.975. A correct approach yields an acceleration of 1.5 m/s², and using the weight of the box, the coefficient of friction is recalculated to be approximately 0.15. The discussion emphasizes the importance of accurately accounting for forces and motion in determining the coefficient of friction.
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Homework Statement



A box weighing 3.0 kN is placed in the bed of a pick-up truck. The pick-up accelerates uniformly from rest to 40 km/h in a distance of 40 m. In that time the box slides 1.0 m back toward the end of the bed. Find the coefficient of friction between the bed and the box.

Homework Equations



v^2 = v0^2 + 2a (x-x0)

F = ma

w = mg

Fk = micro k * N

The Attempt at a Solution



Given:
v0 = 0 km/h
v = 40 km/h
x-xo = Delta x = 40 m = 0.04 km
weight = 3 kN.

First, find a:

v^2 = v0^2 + 2 a (x-x0)
40^2 = 0 + 2 a * 0.04
=> a = 2*10^4 km/s^2.

My imagine that we have 3 forces in Free Body Diagrams: Friction Forces, Newton's law and weight of the box.

We have:

m*g = 3 kN => m = 3000/9.8 = 306.1 grams = 0.306 kg.

N = ma = 0.306 * (2*10^4) = 6120 kN

but the box slides 1.0 m back toward the end of the bed, so

(0.039km * 6120) / 0.04 = 5967 kN

Therefore:

coefficient of friction between the bed and the box is 5967 N / 6120 N = 0.975 = final answer => INCORRECT

Please help! Thanks!
 
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My answer is NOT correct. Please help! Anyone?
 
huybinhs said:

Homework Statement



A box weighing 3.0 kN is placed in the bed of a pick-up truck. The pick-up accelerates uniformly from rest to 40 km/h in a distance of 40 m. In that time the box slides 1.0 m back toward the end of the bed. Find the coefficient of friction between the bed and the box.

Homework Equations



v^2 = v0^2 + 2a (x-x0)

F = ma

w = mg

Fk = micro k * N

The Attempt at a Solution



Given:
v0 = 0 km/h
v = 40 km/h
x-xo = Delta x = 40 m = 0.04 km
weight = 3 kN.

First, find a:

v^2 = v0^2 + 2 a (x-x0)
40^2 = 0 + 2 a * 0.04
=> a = 2*10^4 km/s^2.

My imagine that we have 3 forces in Free Body Diagrams: Friction Forces, Newton's law and weight of the box.

We have:

m*g = 3 kN => m = 3000/9.8 = 306.1 grams = 0.306 kg.

N = ma = 0.306 * (2*10^4) = 6120 kN

but the box slides 1.0 m back toward the end of the bed, so

(0.039km * 6120) / 0.04 = 5967 kN

Therefore:

coefficient of friction between the bed and the box is 5967 N / 6120 N = 0.975 = final answer => INCORRECT

Please help! Thanks!

Im no expert, i worked it out and this is what i got: You deduced the first part right, so
a = 1.5m/s2, then the weight of the box = 3000N, so mg = 3000N, so the force of friction = uk(3000N). If you use Newtons third law the foward force = the reaction force, so it is constant motion. So, the force of friction = Fnet, uk(3000N)=ma, a = the above acceleration and m is obtained from the weight equation Fg=mg, m = 306Kg, plug it into above equation and u shud get uk = 0.15.

Hope this helps:)
 
E=mc^84 said:
Im no expert, i worked it out and this is what i got: You deduced the first part right, so
a = 1.5m/s2, then the weight of the box = 3000N, so mg = 3000N, so the force of friction = uk(3000N). If you use Newtons third law the foward force = the reaction force, so it is constant motion. So, the force of friction = Fnet, uk(3000N)=ma, a = the above acceleration and m is obtained from the weight equation Fg=mg, m = 306Kg, plug it into above equation and u shud get uk = 0.15.

Hope this helps:)

How about "In that time the box slides 1.0 m back toward the end of the bed" ?
 
huybinhs said:
How about "In that time the box slides 1.0 m back toward the end of the bed" ?
Its neglected since the same acceleration is needed to move the box 1.0m.
 
E=mc^84 said:
Its neglected since the same acceleration is needed to move the box 1.0m.

You mean the final answer is 0.15 ?
 
huybinhs said:
You mean the final answer is 0.15 ?

Yup, looks right:)
 
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