Find the eigenvectors from general equation

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenvectors from a given general equation derived from known eigenvalues. The equations presented include linear relationships among variables x1, x2, and x3, with participants exploring how to express these variables to identify eigenvectors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss expressing variables in terms of free variables and simplifying the system of equations. There is an exploration of the relationship between the equations and the implications for the eigenvectors.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using row echelon form to identify free variables and pivot variables, suggesting this method as a way to find eigenvectors. Multiple interpretations of the equations and their implications for eigenvectors are being explored.

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There is mention of the presence of two free variables and the potential for multiple eigenvectors corresponding to the same eigenvalue. The discussion includes references to the null space and special solutions, indicating a connection to broader concepts in linear algebra.

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Homework Statement


I know the eigenvalues, and i have derived the general equation as follows:
-x1 + x2 = 0
x1 - x2 = 0
0.x3 = 0

What is the eigenvector?

The attempt at a solution

I am trying to find the exact procedure to solve this, but there seems to be none.
As a general rule of thumb (i think) i try to express both x1 and x2 in terms of x3.

so,
x1 = x2.
x2 = x1
x3 = 0

The eigenvector is: [1 1 0] ??

In the book, it says there are 2 eigenvectors for the same eigenvalue used for the general equation above.
 
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sharks said:

Homework Statement


I know the eigenvalues, and i have derived the general equation as follows:
-x1 + x2 = 0
x1 - x2 = 0
0.x3 = 0

What is the eigenvector?

The attempt at a solution

I am trying to find the exact procedure to solve this, but there seems to be none.
As a general rule of thumb (i think) i try to express both x1 and x2 in terms of x3.
There are actually two free variables here, x2 and x3.

Your system above could be simplified, by eliminating the second equation (which is equivalent to the first). The third equation places no restrictions on x3, which can be any value.
sharks said:
so,
x1 = x2.
x2 = x1
x3 = 0
Write them this way.
x1 = x2
x2 = x2 (obviously true)
x3 = ... x3 (also obviously true)

This means that a vector x with components x1, x2, and x3, can be written as the sum of scalar multiples of two vectors: <1, 1, 0>T and <0, 0, 1>T. These will do for your eigenvectors for whatever eigenvalue you're working with in this problem.
sharks said:
The eigenvector is: [1 1 0] ??

In the book, it says there are 2 eigenvectors for the same eigenvalue used for the general equation above.
 
Thanks, Mark44. Your advice is enlightening. :)

So, as a general rule, from now onwards (i don't want to rely on visual interpretation to find the free variables) i will do row echelon on the system of equations, which will give me the free variables, and from there, i can find the eigenvector/s by expressing all the pivot variables in terms of the free variables. I recall that i did the same thing to find the special solution/s or null space.
So, am i correct in adopting this way of thinking about finding eigenvectors?
 
sharks said:
Thanks, Mark44. Your advice is enlightening. :)

So, as a general rule, from now onwards (i don't want to rely on visual interpretation to find the free variables) i will do row echelon on the system of equations, which will give me the free variables, and from there, i can find the eigenvector/s by expressing all the pivot variables in terms of the free variables. I recall that i did the same thing to find the special solution/s or null space.
So, am i correct in adopting this way of thinking about finding eigenvectors?
Yes, that's pretty much it. If you get your matrix in reduced row echelon form, all of the entries above or below a leading entry will be 0. From that form you can write equations that give your pivot variables in terms of the free variables.

I should add that in reduced row echelon form, the system you showed in post #1 looks like this:
[1 1 0 |0]

From this I can get the equations I showed earlier.
 
sharks said:
I recall that i did the same thing to find the special solution/s or null space.
So, am i correct in adopting this way of thinking about finding eigenvectors?
Just thought I'd point out when you're looking for the eigenvectors, that's exactly what are you doing. You are solving (A-λI)x=0, that is, finding the null space of (A-λI).
 
Thanks for pointing out this aspect of eigenvectors, vela. :) No more cowering whenever i see an eigenvector problem.
 

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