Find the electric field produced by the atom at the Bohr radius

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field produced by an atom at the Bohr radius, with an electron distributed according to the volume charge density ρ = A e^{-2r/a_o}. Participants confirm the setup of the integral for finding the total charge, Q, and discuss the need for proper limits and the inclusion of dr in the integral. They emphasize the importance of determining the charge enclosed within the Bohr radius for applying Gauss's law correctly. The final expression for the electric field is clarified, ensuring all components are accurately represented. The conversation concludes with a consensus on the correct formulation of the integral and the electric field equation.
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an electron is distributed around a proton according to the volume charge density \rho = A e^{-2r/a_o} where A is a constant, a_o is the Bohr radius and r is the distance from the center of the atom.

Find A:
we know that Q=\int \rho dV = -e
i was wonder if this was the integral that i set up:
-e=\int _0 ^{\inf} A e^{-2r/a_o} 4 \pi r^2 dV

Find the electric field produced by the atom at the Bohr radius?
E4 pi a_o^2=-e/epsilon

then solve for E, is this right?
 
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indigojoker said:
an electron is distributed around a proton according to the volume charge density \rho = A e^{-2r/a_o} where A is a constant, a_o is the Bohr radius and r is the distance from the center of the atom.

Find A:
we know that Q=\int \rho dV = -e
i was wonder if this was the integral that i set up:
-e=\int _0 ^{\inf} A e^{-2r/a_o} 4 \pi r^2 dV

Looks right to me... except should have dR in the integral.

Find the electric field produced by the atom at the Bohr radius?
E4 pi a_o^2=-e/epsilon

then solve for E, is this right?

Left side looks right... but on the right side you need the charge enclosed within the bohr radius... not the entire charge...
 
the reason why its dr is because:

dV=4pir^2dr

right?For the second part, what is the charge enclosed within the bohr radius? I am not quite sure how that plays a role in the equation for flux.
 
indigojoker said:
the reason why its dr is because:

dV=4pir^2dr

right?

yes.

For the second part, what is the charge enclosed within the bohr radius?

integrate \rho dV from 0 to a_o

I am not quite sure how that plays a role in the equation for flux.

what does gauss law say about the flux through the spherical surface at r=a_o
 
so the right side should really be:

E 4 \pi a_{o}^{2} = \frac{\int_0^{a_o} A e^{-2r/a_o} 4 \pi r^2 dr}{\epsilon_o}
 
indigojoker said:
so the right side should really be:

E 4 \pi a_{o}^{2} = \frac{\int_0^{a_o} A e^{-2r/a_o} 4 \pi r^2 dr}{\epsilon_o}

Right... with dR in the integral on the right side...
 
what is the dR integral?

isnt that what i have?
 
indigojoker said:
what is the dR integral?

isnt that what i have?

oops sorry... yes, that's right... I thought I saw dV there before I clicked reply... did you change it?

Anyway, it looks correct now.
 
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haha yes i changed it right when i saw the dV, you must have hit reply while the system was updating :P
 
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indigojoker said:
haha yes i changed it right when i saw the dV, you must have hit reply while the system was updating :P

:wink:
 
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