Find the force while lapping a specimen

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The discussion focuses on the mechanics of lapping a specimen, particularly the forces involved during the process. It emphasizes the need to maintain the specimen's position on the lapping wheel and the importance of using a holder instead of hands for stability. The normal force acting on the specimen is discussed, with calculations provided for determining the tangential frictional force and torque. There is confusion regarding the need to find torque if the specimen is not intended to spin. Overall, the conversation revolves around understanding the forces and mechanics in metallographic grinding and lapping.
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I would like to find the force that acting on my round plate that holds my specimen. which pressed with force 100 N, to push specimen lapping with the lapping wheel at 500rpm. and while lapping the force is acting on the round plate.
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if I use equation F=uN is that right or I should add anything else please help me
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Welcome to the PF. :smile:

You show your specimen in the center of the Lapping Wheel. Does it stay there during the lapping process?

Are you using a slurry? What is it made of?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapping

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I assume you mean you are trying to find the torque. The rotation rate is not relevant.
Presumably the normal force, F= 100N, is uniformly spread across the whole area A.
Consider a small area element rdrdθ at radius r. The normal force is ##\frac 1AFrdrd\theta##, so the tangential frictional force is ##\frac 1A\mu Frdrd\theta##.
To get the torque this exerts around the rotation axis, we multiply by r: ##\frac 1A\mu Fr^2drd\theta##.
To get the total torque integrate this over the area of contact.
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

You show your specimen in the center of the Lapping Wheel. Does it stay there during the lapping process?

Are you using a slurry? What is it made of?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapping

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Thank you for replying to me.:biggrin:
No, it's the metallographic grinding.
the specimen held against the disk wheel.
the specimen made from resin.

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(https://www.kemet.co.uk/blog/metallography/metallographic-polishing-and-grinding)
but I will use the holder to hold instead hands I just wonder the force that acting on the holder.
and its the bearing force right.
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(https://www.metallographic.com/Metallographic-Equipment/Metallography-Single-vs-Central-Force.html)
 
haruspex said:
I assume you mean you are trying to find the torque. The rotation rate is not relevant.
Presumably the normal force, F= 100N, is uniformly spread across the whole area A.
Consider a small area element rdrdθ at radius r. The normal force is ##\frac 1AFrdrd\theta##, so the tangential frictional force is ##\frac 1A\mu Frdrd\theta##.
To get the torque this exerts around the rotation axis, we multiply by r: ##\frac 1A\mu Fr^2drd\theta##.
To get the total torque integrate this over the area of contact.
thank you for replying to me :biggrin:
 
blueboo33 said:
thank you for replying to me :biggrin:
If I don't want to find the torque. the specimen, not spin. what should I do :cry:
 
blueboo33 said:
If I don't want to find the torque. the specimen, not spin. what should I do :cry:
I don’t understand. If not the torque, what?
 
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