Find the initial separation between the particles

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the initial separation between two charged particles after they are released. One participant struggles with the formula, initially arriving at an incorrect value of 0.177 m. Clarification is provided that both particles experience acceleration due to the same repulsive force, necessitating the inclusion of kinetic energy terms for both masses in the energy conservation equation. The relationship between mass and acceleration is emphasized, leading to the conclusion that the velocity of the more massive particle would be half that of the lighter one. The conversation concludes with a mutual understanding of the problem's dynamics and appreciation for the assistance.
nckaytee
Messages
39
Reaction score
0
One particle has a mass of 3.00 10-3 kg and a charge of +7.80 µC. A second particle has a mass of 6.00 10-3 kg and the same charge. The two particles are initially held in place and then released. The particles fly apart, and when the separation between them is 0.100 m, the speed of the 3.00 10-3 kg particle is 130 m/s. Find the initial separation between the particles.

Kq^2/r = Kq^2/d + 1/2mV^2

I keep getting r = .177 but it is not correct :-(
 
Physics news on Phys.org
nckaytee said:
One particle has a mass of 3.00 10-3 kg and a charge of +7.80 µC. A second particle has a mass of 6.00 10-3 kg and the same charge. The two particles are initially held in place and then released. The particles fly apart, and when the separation between them is 0.100 m, the speed of the 3.00 10-3 kg particle is 130 m/s. Find the initial separation between the particles.

Kq^2/r = Kq^2/d + 1/2mV^2

I keep getting r = .177 but it is not correct :-(

But both particles are free to move, and they both get accelerated in opposite directions by the same repulsive force no?
 
Would I not include the " + 1/2mV^2 " then?
 
nckaytee said:
Would I not include the " + 1/2mV^2 " then?

But doesn't that include the MV2/2 for both particles?
 
so don't multiply it by 1/2?
 
nckaytee said:
so don't multiply it by 1/2?

Not quite.

You need to treat the particles according to their mass. They have different mass no?
 
Kq^2/r = Kq^2/d + 1/2m1V^2 + 1/2m2V^2 ?
 
nckaytee said:
Kq^2/r = Kq^2/d + 1/2m1V^2 + 1/2m2V^2 ?

I think so.

Now think in terms of F=ma to determine what the speeds would be. If the m is doubled then what is the acceleration for the same force on the doubled mass? If the Velocity over the same time is 130 on the smaller mass then what would the V of the more massive particle be?
 
So, the V would be halved! Thank you so much, Again! :-)
 
  • #10
nckaytee said:
So, the V would be halved! Thank you so much, Again! :-)

No problem.

Cheers.
 
Back
Top