Find the potential energy of the particle

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The problem involves a bead of mass m moving along a helical path defined by a position vector in three-dimensional space, subjected to gravitational acceleration. The task is to determine the potential energy of the bead in terms of its position along the helix.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to define the potential energy based on the gravitational force acting on the bead as it moves along the helix, expressing it as U=mg(qθ). Some participants question the simplicity of this approach and explore the derivation of potential energy from the work done in a gravitational field.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the potential energy calculation, with participants expressing curiosity about the derivation process. There is no explicit consensus on the approach, but there is engagement with the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions and assumptions related to potential energy in a gravitational field, particularly in the context of a helical motion. There may be concerns about the completeness of the original poster's reasoning.

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Homework Statement


A small bead of mass m is constrained to move on a helix: r (θ) = (R cos(θ), R sin(θ), q θ) where R and q are constants, and θ=θ(t) describes the position of the bead along the helix at time t. The bead is also subjected to a gravitational acceleration g downward (-z direction). Find the following quantities in terms of θ and dθ/dt.

c) The potential energy U

Homework Equations


r (θ) = (R cos(θ), R sin(θ), q θ)

θ=θ(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


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I'm only asking because my attempt at a solution proved to be so simple that I'm a bit nervous about it. If I define the position vector (given above) to have coordinates (x,y,z) and claim that as the particle moves in an upwards (+z) directed helical path, then the potential energy is entirely due to gravity and therefore it is U=mg(qθ). Although I'm not sure if I might have missed something...
 
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If only it were always as simple!
 
PeroK said:
If only it were always as simple!
Yay! Thank you!

Just out of curiosity though, how would I derive this from U(r)=-W(r_0 -> r) (the definition of potential energy)?
 
1v1Dota2RightMeow said:
Yay! Thank you!

Just out of curiosity though, how would I derive this from U(r)=-W(r_0 -> r) (the definition of potential energy)?

I'm not sure what you mean. The PE in a uniform gravitational field is just ##mgh##.
 

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