Find the range of this expression

In summary, when |z| = 1 and |ω-1| = 1, the range of |2z-1|^2 + |2ω-1|^2 is [2, 18]. This is found by manipulating the given equations and finding the maximum and minimum values of Re(z) and Re(ω). The ambiguity in the original question caused some confusion, but a correct solution was eventually reached.
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utkarshakash
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Homework Statement


If |z|=1 and |ω-1|=1, where z, ω [itex]\in[/itex] C, then find the range of [itex] |2z-1|^{2}+|2ω-1|^{2}.[/itex]


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The Attempt at a Solution



Since |ω-1|=1
Squaring both sides and simplifying
[itex] |ω|^{2}=ω+\overline{ω}[/itex]

Also simplifying the expression given in the question
[itex]6-2(z+\overline{z})-2(ω+\overline{ω})+4|ω|^{2}[/itex]
[itex]6-2(z+\overline{z})+2(ω+\overline{ω})[/itex]
Since [itex](ω+\overline{ω})=-1[/itex]
[itex]4-2(z+\overline{z})[/itex]
Since [itex](z+\overline{z}) = 2Re(z)[/itex]
Now the expression reduces to

[itex] \large 4 \left\{ 1-Re(z) \right\} [/itex]

Since |z|=1
∴Locus of z will be a circle with centre at origin and unit radius. So the max Re(z) can be 1 and min Re(z) can be -1. Substituting these in my expression for max and min I get [0,8] but the answer is [2,18]. :frown:
 
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How did you deduce that
utkarshakash said:
Since [itex](w+\overline{w}) = -1[/itex]
?
 
  • #3
Sourabh N said:
How did you deduce that

?

Since ω is a cube root of unity therefore [itex]\overline{ω}[/itex] will be [itex]
ω^{2}[/itex]

[itex] ω = \frac{-1}{2} + \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}i and \overline{ω}=\frac{-1}{2} - \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}i[/itex]

Adding two I get [itex]ω+\overline{ω}=-1[/itex]
 
  • #4
utkarshakash said:
Since ω is a cube root of unity therefore [itex]\overline{ω}[/itex] will be [itex]
ω^{2}[/itex]

[itex] ω = \frac{-1}{2} + \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}i and \overline{ω}=\frac{-1}{2} - \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}i[/itex]

Adding two I get [itex]ω+\overline{ω}=-1[/itex]

Cube root of unity?? But the definition of ω you have in your original question doesn't comply with this.

I think you're confusing the variable ω used in this question with the standard notation used for cube root of unity. For present question, ω has nothing to do with cube root of unity.
 
  • #5
Sourabh N said:
Cube root of unity?? But the definition of ω you have in your original question doesn't comply with this.

I think you're confusing the variable ω used in this question with the standard notation used for cube root of unity. For present question, ω has nothing to do with cube root of unity.

OK, I understand you. So correcting my mistake I am left with this

[itex] 6+2(ω+\overline{ω})-2(z+\overline{z}) [/itex]

which reduces to
6+4Re(ω)+4Re(z)

Now what to do??
 
  • #6
Now you have to find the maximum and minimum of Re(ω) and Re(z). In your first post, you have done so for Re(z), you can do the same for Re(ω).
 
  • #7
Sourabh N said:
Now you have to find the maximum and minimum of Re(ω) and Re(z). In your first post, you have done so for Re(z), you can do the same for Re(ω).

Hey thanks. At last I got my answer. The complication arised only because of ambiguity in the question.
 
  • #8
Very good. :smile:
 

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"Find the range of this expression" means to determine the set of all possible output values that can be obtained by evaluating the given mathematical expression.

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