Find the solution of this differential equation

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The discussion revolves around forming a differential equation involving a function defined as f(x, y) = xy * g(7x² - 9y²). Participants are exploring how to express the equation 9y(∂f/∂x) + 7x(∂f/∂y) in terms of f, x, and y, rather than the function g.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to compute partial derivatives of f and how to substitute them into the differential equation. There is confusion regarding the requirement to express the equation in terms of f rather than g, with some participants questioning the instructions and their understanding of the problem.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations of the requirements being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on computing derivatives and substitutions, while others express uncertainty about the expectations for the final form of the equation.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be a misunderstanding regarding the formulation of the differential equation, specifically whether it should include the function g or be expressed solely in terms of f, x, and y. This has led to differing opinions on how to proceed.

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Homework Statement



if
[tex]f \left( x,y \right) =xy*g \left( 7\,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right)[/tex]
then the differential equation [tex]9y\frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial x}} + 7x\frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial y}} = ?[/tex] is equal to?

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i triedto do a partial derivatives which doesn't really seem to work
if you can just give me a direction in which to go to
thanks
 
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supercali said:
i triedto do a partial derivatives which doesn't really seem to work

Hi supercali! :smile:

I don't see what doesn't really seem to work … which might be because you haven't told us! :rolleyes:

(you do know they don't want you to solve the equation, only to write it out?)
 
i don't think i really understand what it is i need to do
 
Just write out ∂f/∂x, and multiply it by 9y … :smile:

(they haven't told you what g' is, so just leave it as g')

(you do understand that g is an ordinary function, don't you?)
 
no that's not what they want me to do
they want me to form a differential equation the answer suppose to be with f ,x and y
but i just don't think i understand how to do so
 
Find
1. df/dx
df/dy

g(mess) is a function, so use chain rule for it

2. Substitute df/dx and df/dy in your target equation

I think you misunderstood tiny-tim. You don't write out but do substitution.

You don't need anything else (I can say for sure :) )
 
Hi supercali! :smile:

supercali said:
they want me to form a differential equation the answer suppose to be with f ,x and y

No … they want you to form a differential equation with g x and y.

f should disappear :smile:
 
now i have the question infront of me the say there that they want the answer in terms of y x and f not g
 
supercali said:
now i have the question infront of me the say there that they want the answer in terms of y x and f not g

no wonder you're confused …

once you've done ∂/∂x to f, the f has gone!

all that's left is x and y and g and g'

Anyway, as rootX says, just work your way through it! :smile:
 
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solution:derive f
[tex]9\,y \left( yg \left( 7\,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right) +14\,{x}^{2}y<br /> \mbox {D} \left( g \right) \left( 7\,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right) <br /> \right) +7\,x \left( xg \left( 7\,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right) -18\,x{y<br /> }^{2}\mbox {D} \left( g \right) \left( 7\,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right) <br /> \right)[/tex]
gives:
[tex]9\,{y}^{2}g \left( 7\,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right) +7\,{x}^{2}g \left( 7<br /> \,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right)[/tex]
since [tex]f= xyg \left( 7\,{x}^{2}-9\,{y}^{2} \right)[/tex]
we can get an expretion for y*g and x*g thus the final answer is
[tex]9\,{\frac {yf}{x}}+7\,{\frac {xf}{y}}[/tex]

thanks for all the help
 

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