Find the Speed of a Block: Force, Friction, and Time

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A 3.72 kg block is being pulled on a horizontal surface with a force of 11.5 N at a 20.5° angle, while experiencing kinetic friction with a coefficient of 0.070. The discussion focuses on calculating the normal force, which is affected by the vertical components of the pulling force and the weight of the block. Participants clarify that the normal force must balance the vertical forces, leading to the equation FN = mg - 11.5sin(20.5). Several attempts to calculate the block's acceleration and final speed after 6.10 seconds are made, but participants struggle with the correct application of the equations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately resolving forces to determine the block's speed.
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Homework Statement


A 3.72 kg block located on a horizontal floor is pulled by a cord that exerts a force F = 11.5 N at an angle θ = 20.5° above the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the floor is 0.070. What is the speed of the block 6.10 s after it starts moving?


Homework Equations


F=ma
vf = at


The Attempt at a Solution


What is the normal force in this case, because it's not mg, as I tried that and got it wrong.
 
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Hi Zhalfirin88! :smile:
Zhalfirin88 said:
What is the normal force in this case, because it's not mg, as I tried that and got it wrong.

That's right … in this case, there are three forces with a (non-zero) component in the vertical direction: F N and W, instead of the usual 2.

Obviously, you need the three components to add to zero. :wink:
 
Zhalfirin88 said:
What is the normal force in this case, because it's not mg, as I tried that and got it wrong.
To figure out the normal force, add up all the vertical force components. What must they add up to?
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Zhalfirin88! :smile:

That's right … in this case, there are three forces with a (non-zero) component in the vertical direction: F N and W, instead of the usual 2.

Obviously, you need the three components to add to zero. :wink:

I have no idea what you said after there are 3 non-zero components in the vertical direction.

To figure out the normal force, add up all the vertical force components. What must they add up to?

Since it's not moving in the vertical direction it'd be zero right?
 
Zhalfirin88 said:
I have no idea what you said after there are 3 non-zero components in the vertical direction.

There's the force from the cord (F), the weight of the block, and the normal force.

Their components (in any direction) have to add to zero.
 
Okay, I have no patience for this.

0 = FN + Fg + FT

FN = -mg - FT

FN = -(3.72)(9.8) - 11.5sin(20.5)

FN = -36.45 - 3.8523

FN = -40.30 N

But, you plug that into static friction equation and you get fs = -2.821

So, 11.5sin(20.5) + 2.821 = 6.8484N/3.72 kg

a = 1.841 m/s2

vf = at

vf = 1.841 * 6.1

vf = 11.23 and that is wrong.

edit: I also did:

FN = +36.45 - 3.8523 Because down is the negative direction.

FN = 32.5977 N

But, you plug that into static friction equation and you get fs = 2.821

So, 11.5sin(20.5) - 2.821 = 1.7455N/3.72 kg

a = .4692 m/s2

vf = at

vf =.4692 * 6.1

vf = 2.86 and that is wrong. But that was my final try at the question so it's wrong for good now.
 
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Zhalfirin88 said:
0 = FN + Fg + FT

FN = -mg - FT

FN = -(3.72)(9.8) - 11.5sin(20.5)

FN = -36.45 - 3.8523

FN = -40.30 N
You made your mistake in your 2nd line.
ΣF = FN + Fg + FT
ΣF = FN - mg + 11.5sin(20.5)

Since gravity acts down it gets a negative sign, while FT gets a positive sign.

Since ΣF = 0:
FN = mg - 11.5sin(20.5)
 
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