Find the tension in the guy wire and the force on the strut by the pivot.

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The discussion revolves around finding the tension in a guy wire and the force exerted on a strut by a pivot, involving concepts from statics and force equilibrium. Participants express confusion regarding the problem's vague wording and the specific forces at play.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the system, including weight and tension, and question the clarity of terms like "strut by the pivot." Some suggest using vector components or graphical methods to analyze the forces.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equilibrium of forces, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the setup.

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Participants note the vagueness of the problem statement and the potential need for additional information to clarify the scenario and the forces acting on the system.

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1. Find the tension in the guy wire and the force on the strut by the pivot.
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Homework Equations


I think Fwsin30 and Fwsin40 is applicable here to find tension.

The Attempt at a Solution


The information provided is EXTREMELY vague in my opinion, and I have no idea how to come to any sensible solution. I am not sure if torque is needed or not.
 
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Well, I don't know what the "strut by the pivot" means so I have to agree it is vague. I would work with the forces acting on the tip where the weight is hung from. There are three forces acting there and since that point is not accelerating, those three forces must add up to zero. You can go with horizontal and vertical components for each vector, or you can go with a head-to-tail triangle diagram of the three vectors adding to zero and solve it with law of sines and law of cosines.
 
Delphi51 said:
Well, I don't know what the "strut by the pivot" means so I have to agree it is vague. I would work with the forces acting on the tip where the weight is hung from. There are three forces acting there and since that point is not accelerating, those three forces must add up to zero. You can go with horizontal and vertical components for each vector, or you can go with a head-to-tail triangle diagram of the three vectors adding to zero and solve it with law of sines and law of cosines.

The strut by the pivot, I do believe, is the pole acting at the 45 degree angle. Could you please explain what forces those may be? I know that one must be Fw or Force of weight.
 
Yes, gravity and the push of the strut and the pull of the guy wire. I would assume that the strut just pushes in its own direction.
 

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