Find the value of 3/a + 3/a² + 3/a³.

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of the expression $$\frac{3}{a}+\frac{3}{a^2}+\frac{3}{a^3}$$ where $$a=\sqrt[3]{4}+\sqrt[3]{2}+1$$. Participants explore different methods of simplifying the expression, considering both substitution and algebraic manipulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest substituting the value of $$a$$ directly into the expression to simplify it.
  • Others propose that further simplification is necessary after substitution, indicating that the expression may not simplify to a straightforward result.
  • One participant introduces a new variable $$\lambda = \sqrt[3]{2}$$ and derives an expression for $$\frac{3}{a}+\frac{3}{a^2}+\frac{3}{a^3}$$ using this substitution, leading to a more complex form.
  • Another participant notes that $$a$$ can be interpreted as the sum of terms in a geometric progression, providing an alternative method to express $$a$$ and subsequently the original expression.
  • There is acknowledgment of differing approaches to the problem, with one participant expressing regret for initially suggesting a direct substitution approach.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to simplify the expression. Multiple competing views on how to approach the problem remain, with some favoring direct substitution and others advocating for algebraic manipulation.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the simplification process and the potential for further reduction of the derived expressions. The discussion highlights the complexity of the algebra involved and the different interpretations of the problem.

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Given $$a=\sqrt[3]{4}+\sqrt[3]{2}+1$$, find the value of $$\frac{3}{a}+\frac{3}{a^2}+\frac{3}{a^3}$$.
 
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Re: Find the value of 3/a+3/a²+3/a³.

anemone said:
Given $$a=\sqrt[3]{4}+\sqrt[3]{2}+1$$, find the value of $$\frac{3}{a}+\frac{3}{a^2}+\frac{3}{a^3}$$.

Am I missing something, or can we just substitute the value of a? Or are you expecting this to simplify to something simple? :P
 
Re: Find the value of 3/a+3/a²+3/a³.

Prove It said:
Am I missing something, or can we just substitute the value of a? Or are you expecting this to simplify to something simple? :P

Hi Prove It, I really think we have to substitute the value of a into the intended expression and further simplifying it from there...:)
 
Re: Find the value of 3/a+3/a²+3/a³.

anemone said:
Given $$a=\sqrt[3]{4}+\sqrt[3]{2}+1$$, find the value of $$\frac{3}{a}+\frac{3}{a^2}+\frac{3}{a^3}$$.
Let $\lambda = \sqrt[3]2$, so that $\lambda^3 = 2$. Then $(\lambda-1)a = (\lambda-1)(\lambda^2 + \lambda +1) = \lambda^3-1 = 2-1=1.$ Therefore $1/a = \lambda-1$, and $$\begin{aligned}\frac{3}{a}+\frac{3}{a^2}+\frac{3}{a^3} &= 3\bigl((\lambda-1) + (\lambda-1)^2 + (\lambda-1)^3\bigr) \\ &= 3(\lambda-1)(\lambda^2 - \lambda + 1) \\ &= 3(\lambda^3 -2\lambda^2 +2\lambda - 1) \\ &= 3(1+2\lambda-2\lambda^2) \\ &= 3 + 6\sqrt[3]2 - 6\sqrt[3]4.\end{aligned}$$ I don't see that it can be simplified further than that.
 
Re: Find the value of 3/a+3/a²+3/a³.

Thanks Opalg for participating in this problem and my answer is 'quite' similar to yours too.:)

My solution:

I noticed that $$a=\sqrt[3]{4}+\sqrt[3]{2}+1=1+\sqrt[3]{2}+\sqrt[3]{4}$$ is actually the sum of the first three terms of a geometric progression with first term and common ratio to be 1 and $$\sqrt[3]{2}$$ respectively and I found another way to rewrite $$a$$, i.e.

$$a=S_3=\frac{1((\sqrt[3]{2})^3-1)}{\sqrt[3]{2}-1}=\frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{2}-1}$$.

Therefore, the intended expression could be found by substituting this formula for $$a$$ into it to get:

$$\frac{3}{a}+\frac{3}{a^2}+\frac{3}{a^3}=\frac{3}{a^3}\left(1+a+a^2\right)=3(\sqrt[3]{2}-1)((\sqrt[3]{2})^2-\sqrt[3]{2}+1)$$

My little note to Prove It:

I am truly sorry, Prove It for telling you to substitute the value of $$a$$ straight into the equation and then to do the simplification, because what I am posting now is totally going against what I said to you but on the level, I did try to approach it using two ways and the initial one was to substitute first and simplify next.
 

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