Finding acceleration of a particle due to the magnetic field

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The problem involves a charged particle moving in a magnetic field, specifically focusing on calculating the particle's acceleration due to the magnetic force acting on it. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism and vector calculus.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the acceleration by applying the Lorentz force equation and considers the angles between the velocity and magnetic field components. Some participants question the assumptions made about the angles and components involved in the cross product.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the cross product and its application in this context. Some guidance has been offered regarding the computation of the determinant for the cross product, and there is an ongoing discussion about the validity of ignoring certain components of the magnetic field.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the correct application of vector operations and the implications of angle assumptions in the calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about vector manipulation and the resulting direction and magnitude of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


A particle (mass 2.0 mg, charge –6.0 µC) moves in the positive direction along the x-axis with a velocity of 3.0 km/s. It enters a magnetic field of (2.0i + 3.0j + 4.0k) mT. What is the acceleration of the particle?

Homework Equations


F = ma to find the acceleration
F = qv x B to find the force of the magnetic field

The Attempt at a Solution



So I figured that since the velocity is in the positive x direction, and the x component of the magnetic field is also in a positive direction, the angle between them is 0 and so I can just not worry about the x component.

To get Fj, I have Fj = qvBsin(90), since j is in the positive y direction and the velocity is in the positive x direction. This gives me a force of -5.4 x 10-5, which if I divide by the mass, I get a = -.027 m/s2. I do the same for the k component, which I think the angle separating the field and the velocity is also 90 degrees, so Fk = qvBsin(90), which I get to be -7.2 x 10-5, and if I divide by the mass, I get a = -0.036 m/s2.

so my final answer would be a = (-.027j - 0.036k)m/s2. That is not one of my answer choices, which are as follows:

However, the correct answer is (36j - 27k)m/s2. My order of magnitude is wrong but so are the vectors (my answer has 27j, the correct is 27k, and the same for 36). I'm really bad with dealing with vectors so I'm sure that's the problem, but can anyone guide me to the correct answer?
Thank you
 
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fruitbubbles said:
So I figured that since the velocity is in the positive x direction, and the x component of the magnetic field is also in a positive direction, the angle between them is 0 and so I can just not worry about the x component.
... why not check that by computing the determinant for the cross product?
 
Simon Bridge said:
... why not check that by computing the determinant for the cross product?
..I do not have the slightest idea as to what that is.
 
fruitbubbles said:
..I do not have the slightest idea as to what that is.
Okay, I just looked at my notes and see what you mean, but I don't understand why sometimes I can just do the cross product of A x B as ABsin(theta) and sometimes I have to do all of that. I have no clue what it means
 
For two vectors given by:
##\vec r_1 = a\hat \imath + b\hat\jmath + c\hat k##
##\vec r_2 = d\hat \imath + e\hat\jmath + f\hat k##

Then the cross product is given by:
$$\vec r_1\times\vec r_2 = \begin{vmatrix} \hat\imath & \hat\jmath & \hat k\\ a & b & c \\ d & e & f \end{vmatrix}$$
 
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If you correctly guess the angle, you can use ##ABsin\theta## to get the magitude and the right-hand rule to get the direction.

Go through the working for the determinant a step at a time and compare with your assumptions from before. i.e. can you safely ignore the x component of the magnetic field? Can you take the other components separately like you did? Did you absently switch two components over?
 
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