Finding Acceleration of Blocks Connected by String

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a system involving two blocks connected by a string, with one block on a table and the other hanging off the edge. The coefficients of static and kinetic friction are given as 0.50 and 0.30, respectively. Participants clarify that kinetic friction is not applicable since the system is initially at rest, and the static friction must be considered instead. The calculations reveal that the force of static friction exceeds the weight of the hanging block, indicating that the system will not move when released. Therefore, the conclusion is that the system remains stationary unless an external force is applied.
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Problem: I've been assigned a problem that involves a block on a table that is attached by a string to a block hanging over the edge. They are of different masses, and I am given coefficients for both static and kinetic friction. The former is .50, and the latter is .30. I have to find the acceleration of the system if it is released from rest.

My problem: ok, so do I need to use the coefficient of kinetic friction at all? I do not think so...that's pretty much my question.
 
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I got a negative answer..
 
Can you show what equations you used? Kinetic friction should be used for surfaces moving relative to each other.
 
Hi ƒ(x)! :wink:

Do good ol' Newton's second law on each block separately, plus the fact that their accelerations must be the same (because the string length is constant).

What do you get? :smile:
 
m1 (on table) = 10 kg
m2 = 4 kg

.5*Fn = Fs
.5*10*9.8 = 49 N = Fs

Fnet = Fx - Fs = 4*9.8 - 49 = -9.8 N

ma = -9.8
a = -9.8/m = -9.8/(4+10) = -.7 m/s/s
 
ƒ(x) said:
m1 (on table) = 10 kg
m2 = 4 kg

ohh! you didn't give the masses before :rolleyes:

no wonder you got a negative answer
.5*Fn = Fs
.5*10*9.8 = 49 N = Fs

Fnet = Fx - Fs = 4*9.8 - 49 = -9.8 N

ma = -9.8
a = -9.8/m = -9.8/(4+10) = -.7 m/s/s

That doesn't make sense … how can the mass be accelerating upward?

What does it mean if the weight is less than the µsN ?
 
I'm guessing it means that the system isn't moving.
 
ƒ(x) said:
I'm guessing it means that the system isn't moving.

(why guessing? :rolleyes:)

That's right! …

if the system is released from rest, it will never move (even though if it was given a little nudge, the low µk would enable it to keep accelerating). :smile:
 
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