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The discussion revolves around calculating the minimum density required for two identical spheres, each with a diameter of 8.55 meters, to generate a gravitational force equal to the weight of one sphere. The gravitational force equation and the acceleration due to Earth's gravity were used to derive the mass of one sphere, resulting in an unexpectedly high density of approximately 3.3 x 10^10 kg/m^3. The high density is attributed to the small value of the gravitational constant (G), which necessitates a large mass to achieve significant gravitational attraction. Participants confirmed the calculations and discussed the implications of such a high density in relation to the weak nature of gravitational force. Understanding these principles is crucial for solving similar physics problems.
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Homework Statement


Two identical spheres of diameter 8.55m are on the surface of the earth. The spheres are touching each other. What is the minimum density the spheres must have such that the gravitational force between them is at least equal to the weight of one of the spheres.


Homework Equations



F= m1*a = (G*m1*m2)/(r^2)
Newtons law of universal gravitation.

The Attempt at a Solution


I used the value for the acceleration of the Earth and multiplied it by the square of the radius between the spheres then divided the result by G to obtain m the mass m of one of the spheres was then divided by the volume of the sphere calculated from ((4/3)*Π*r^3) though this gave a value too high for the density of the sphere the value was like 3*10^10 kg/(m^3) higher than even the density of the planet is there any other insight to an attempt or solution to this problem it would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Tiven white said:

Homework Statement


Two identical spheres of diameter 8.55m are on the surface of the earth. The spheres are touching each other. What is the minimum density the spheres must have such that the gravitational force between them is at least equal to the weight of one of the spheres.

Homework Equations



F= m1*a = (G*m1*m2)/(r^2)
Newtons law of universal gravitation.

The Attempt at a Solution


I used the value for the acceleration of the Earth and multiplied it by the square of the radius between the spheres then divided the result by G to obtain m the mass m of one of the spheres was then divided by the volume of the sphere calculated from ((4/3)*Π*r^3) though this gave a value too high for the density of the sphere the value was like 3*10^10 kg/(m^3) higher than even the density of the planet is there any other insight to an attempt or solution to this problem it would be greatly appreciated.

Your answer is in the right ballpark and I think you are doing the right thing, but I don't think it's quite right. Can you show your work. The density will have to be huge? Gravity is a very weak force.
 
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OK so where a= (G*m)/(r^2)
9.81 = ((6.67*10^-11)*(m)) / (8.55^2)
So (9.81)*( 8.55^2)/(6.67*10^-11) = m
So m = 1.08 * 10^13 kg


V =( 4/3)*(3.14)*(8.55/2)^3
V = 3.27 * 10^2 (m^3)
So density = (1.08* 10^13) ÷(3.27*10^2)
This implies the density =( 3.3 * 10^10 kg/m^3)
 
Could u verify the working as u had asked.for.a sample of the calculations
 
Tiven white said:
OK so where a= (G*m)/(r^2)
9.81 = ((6.67*10^-11)*(m)) / (8.55^2)
So (9.81)*( 8.55^2)/(6.67*10^-11) = m
So m = 1.08 * 10^13 kg


V =( 4/3)*(3.14)*(8.55/2)^3
V = 3.27 * 10^2 (m^3)
So density = (1.08* 10^13) ÷(3.27*10^2)
This implies the density =( 3.3 * 10^10 kg/m^3)
Looks right.
 
haruspex said:
Looks right.

I agree. I was forgetting to divide the diameter by 2 to get the radius.
 
So I was skeptical about why the spheres had to have such a huge density could I hear an explanation why
 
Tiven white said:
So I was skeptical about why the spheres had to have such a huge density could I hear an explanation why

It's what I said in the first response. It's because G is so small. It's so small it's difficult to even measure using laboratory scale objects, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_constant#History_of_measurement It shouldn't be surprising that to get an amount of acceleration comparable to the acceleration produced by the whole Earth you'd need a lot of mass. Hence huge density.
 
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