Finding Electric Potential at P, Q and R in a Earthed Circuit

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The discussion focuses on determining the electric potentials at points P, Q, and R in a circuit with point S earthed at 0 volts. Using Kirchhoff's second law and Ohm's law, participants calculate the current flowing clockwise and the voltage drops across resistors. The potential differences are derived from the reference point S, with calculations showing the potential drops across each resistor. Participants confirm their reasoning and calculations, ensuring consistency by checking potential values from both clockwise and counter-clockwise directions. The conversation concludes with a successful understanding of the relationships between current, voltage, and electric potential in the circuit.
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Homework Statement



In the circuit given (attached) , point S is earthed , what are the electrical potentials at point P , Q and R .

Homework Equations



Kirchoff's second law .

The Attempt at a Solution



The electric potential at point S is 0 . By applying Kirchoff's second law ,

I(2+3)=15-5

I=2A

i am not sure where to go from here .
 

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You found the current. In what direction does it flow? Use that to find the voltage drops across each resistor.
 
Doc Al said:
You found the current. In what direction does it flow? Use that to find the voltage drops across each resistor.

ok , the current is flowing in the clockwise direction . Could you elaborate a little further on the voltage calculation of each resistors ?

But the question is asking for the potential at points P,Q and R respectively . How is it related to the potential difference across the resistors .

Thanks !
 
thereddevils said:
ok , the current is flowing in the clockwise direction .
Good.
Could you elaborate a little further on the voltage calculation of each resistors ?
Sure. The voltage across each resistor is given by Ohm's law: ΔV = IR. To find the sign of the voltage across the resistor, you need to know the direction of the current. Hint: Does current across a resistor flow from lower to higher potential or from higher to lower?

But the question is asking for the potential at points P,Q and R respectively . How is it related to the potential difference across the resistors .
To find the potential at any point with respect to some reference, just add up the voltage drops across each piece. Here your reference is point S, which is marked as ground and thus is at 0 Volts. To find the potential of point P, for example, you need to find ΔV from S to P. S to P contains a battery, so what's ΔV? To find the potential of point Q, you'll add up the voltage drops across S-P and P-Q. What's the voltage drop from P to Q across that 2 Ω resistor?
 
Doc Al said:
Good.

Sure. The voltage across each resistor is given by Ohm's law: ΔV = IR. To find the sign of the voltage across the resistor, you need to know the direction of the current. Hint: Does current across a resistor flow from lower to higher potential or from higher to lower?


To find the potential at any point with respect to some reference, just add up the voltage drops across each piece. Here your reference is point S, which is marked as ground and thus is at 0 Volts. To find the potential of point P, for example, you need to find ΔV from S to P. S to P contains a battery, so what's ΔV? To find the potential of point Q, you'll add up the voltage drops across S-P and P-Q. What's the voltage drop from P to Q across that 2 Ω resistor?

thanks ! Now , i understand this question better . Let me attempt again .

Since the emf of the 15 V battery > emf of 5V battery , the current will be flowing in the clockwise direction .

pd across sp would simply be -5V .

pd across 2 ohm resistor is 2/(2+3) x (5-15)=-4V so pd across SQ is -5-4=-9V

pd across 3 ohm resistor is 3/(2+3) x (5-15)=-6V so pd across SR is -15 V

Are my reasonings correct ?
 
Perfecto!

Just for fun, realize that you can find the potential of a point (Q, say) by starting from S and going clockwise around the circuit or by going counter-clockwise. Do it both ways and check that you get the same answer.
 
Doc Al said:
Perfecto!

Just for fun, realize that you can find the potential of a point (Q, say) by starting from S and going clockwise around the circuit or by going counter-clockwise. Do it both ways and check that you get the same answer.

yay! Thanks ! Yeah , i have experimented with that
 
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