Finding equations of two lines

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The problem involves finding two lines in R3 that are not parallel and do not intersect. The original poster provides two vectors but does not specify them as lines with starting points, leading to questions about their validity as lines.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants question whether the original poster has provided all necessary information, particularly regarding the starting points of the lines. There is discussion about the nature of the provided vectors and their representation as lines.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering guidance on how to properly define lines in R3 and emphasizing the need for clarity regarding points and direction vectors. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is a lack of specified starting points for the lines, which is crucial for determining whether they intersect. The original poster's vectors are questioned for their representation as lines.

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Homework Statement



Find 2 lines in R3 that are not parallel and do not intersect.

Homework Equations



orthogonal: a.b=0
parallel: a=tb

The Attempt at a Solution



(1,1,1) and (2,3,4)

(1,1,1).(2,3,4) = 7
and there does not exist a t such that
t(1,1,1) = (2,3,4)
 
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Is that all you're given? Any 2 lines would do?

Your answer doesn't include the starting point of the line vector it's supposed to be in: (x0,y0,z0) + t(a,b,c). The point (x0,y0,z0) isn't specified. That's why you haven't shown why they do not intersect.
 
If fact, your answers are not lines at all! What you give look like points but I guess you mean them as vectors- and I presume you mean them as "direction" vectors for the lines. The fact that "(1,1,1).(2,3,4) = 7" shows that they are not perpendicular (not really relevant) and the fact that "there does not exist a t such that t(1,1,1) = (2,3,4)" shows that they are not parallel. Neither of those means they do not intersect.
As defennnder said, you need to write them as lines with a parameter such as t. To do that, you will have to specify a point on them- and whether or not they intersect will depend on that point. For example, the lines \vec{r_1}= t\vec{i}+ t\vec{j}+ t\vec{k} and \vec{r_2}= 2t\vec{i}+ 3t\vec{j}+ 4t\vec{k} have direction vectors \vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ \vec{k} and 2\vec{i}+ 3\vec{j}+ 4\vec{k} respectively and intersect at (0, 0, 0). You need to find skew lines.
 
First try to get the geometrical picture clear. Can you describe in words two lines that would do?
 

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