Finding expressions for the five other trigonometric functions....

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding expressions for the five other trigonometric functions given that cos(θ) = x/4. Participants explore the implications of using a variable x and the assumptions regarding the triangle's configuration, particularly in relation to the Pythagorean theorem and the definitions of trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the variable x and the lack of specification regarding the triangle's type, questioning whether it is a right triangle.
  • Another participant suggests that the presence of x does not complicate the problem and encourages constructing a right triangle based on the cosine definition.
  • A participant attempts to apply the Pythagorean theorem but struggles to find the opposite side's relationship to the adjacent side without knowing the triangle type.
  • One participant points out that using the identity sin²(θ) + cos²(θ) = 1 can help derive sin(θ) from cos(θ).
  • Another participant encourages finding an expression for the opposite side in terms of x to facilitate calculating the other trigonometric functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of using the Pythagorean theorem and trigonometric identities, but there is uncertainty regarding the implications of the variable x and the triangle's configuration. The discussion remains unresolved as participants continue to seek clarity on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the problem's specifications, particularly the lack of clarity on the triangle type and the relationship between the sides when using a variable.

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So here's the question:

Suppose cos(θ) =x/4. Find expressions for the other five trigonometric functions in terms of x.

In our practice problems we never had a variable x used and we were able to use the pythagorean theorem to determine the final side of the triangle and simply figure out the relationship using soh-cah-toa.

The x is throwing me off and the fact that the question doesn't specify that it's a right triangle...but perhaps that's a given since they specified that it was an angle with a cosine in the fourth quadrant?

In any case, all I've got is that sec(θ)=4/x. :(

I have a feeling there's some identity or something I should be using -- even a hint would be greatly appreciated.

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Additionally -- it does not specify whether it's a 45/45/90 or 30/60/90 triangle which would have been helpful as well.
 
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Hi TrigEatsMe, (Wave)

The fact that there is an $x$ actually doesn't make it any harder!

$$\cos\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{x}{4}=\frac{\text{adjacent}}{\text{hypotenuse}}$$

From this, we can construct a right angled triangle (it need not matter whether it's 30-60-90 or 45-45-90). Using Pythagorean theorem, and knowing that the adjacent side is $x$ and the hypotenuse is $4$, how can I find the opposite side?

Remember that if we have the values of all three sides, we can easily find the other ratios:
$$\sin\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{\text{opposite}}{\text{hypotenuse}}$$
$$\tan\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{\text{opposite}}{\text{adjacent}}$$

The inverse trig ratios follow from this. :D
 
Thanks for such a quick response! I must be missing something, though.

a^2 + b^2 = c^2

so I have x^2 + (b^2) = 16

The question asks for me to provide the other five trig functions in terms of x. I'm not seeing how to find out what that opposite side is -- what is its relationship to the adjacent side unless it's a 45-45-90 or 30/60/90?

Sorry :(
 
Picking up where Rido12 left off...take this from the basic definitions, and yes, we are going to use the Pythagorean Theorem, but in a different way. You have [math]cos( \theta ) = x/4[/math]. We also know that [math]sin^2( \theta ) + cos^2 ( \theta ) = 1[/math], so if we know [math]cos( \theta )[/math] we can get [math]sin( \theta )[/math]. Give it a try.

-Dan
 
TrigEatsMe said:
Thanks for such a quick response! I must be missing something, though.

a^2 + b^2 = c^2

so I have x^2 + (b^2) = 16

The question asks for me to provide the other five trig functions in terms of x. I'm not seeing how to find out what that opposite side is -- what is its relationship to the adjacent side unless it's a 45-45-90 or 30/60/90?

Sorry :(

You're getting there and you want to remove the variable $$b$$. Can you find an expression for $$b$$ in terms of $$16 \text{ and } x^2$$

[math]b = \sqrt{16-x^2}[/math]

Here is a picture in case a visual aid helps
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I used $$A$$ instead of $$\theta$$ to save my poor drawing hand!

Once you know all three sides you can work out the other trig ratios. Start with $$\sin(\theta)$$ and $$\tan(\theta)$$ and use those to find the others. Your answer will be in terms of $$x$$ but that's expected and correct in this case
 
Thanks for all your help, folks -- I was able to get it submitted in time and assuming I got the answer correct I wills post what I submitted sometime tomorrow. If I didn't...well, I'll post it anyway so someone can correct me. ;)
 

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