Finding Irms for rectified half wave

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The discussion revolves around calculating the root mean square (Irms) value for a rectified half wave current waveform, specifically focusing on a waveform with a peak current of 10A lasting for 4.0ms followed by a flat line for another 4.0ms.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula Irms = Ipeak / 0.707 but questions its applicability in this context. They seek clarification on why the Irms might be calculated as 5.0A. Other participants provide different approaches, including integrating the function over the period and considering the effects of a DC current being turned on and off.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, with some offering mathematical formulas and others questioning the assumptions made about the waveform. There is a lack of consensus on the correct Irms value, as one participant disputes the calculation leading to 5A, suggesting an alternative reasoning based on heating ability.

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There is mention of a 50% duty cycle in the waveform, and participants are navigating through the implications of this on the RMS calculation. Some confusion exists regarding the definitions and roles of parameters such as omega in the context of the given equations.

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I'm given a rectified half wave, first half of sine wave (lasts 4.0ms) has peak of 10A, followed by a flat line for another 4.0ms



how am i supposed to calculate the Irms? I can't apply Irms= Ipeak/ .707 so what should i do?



could someone explain why it turns out as 5.0A? 10A/2? if so, why?
 
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Welcome to PF.

The rms of a periodic function is given by:

[tex] f_{rms} = \sqrt {{\textstyle{1 \over T}}\int\limits_0^T {(f(t))^2 } dt} [/tex]
where T is the period. Here, [itex] f(t) = (\sin \omega t + 0)[/itex].

Your T is 8 ms. Try it now.
 
If you had a sinewave with a peak current of 10 A the RMS value would be 0.707 times 10 A or 7.07 amps.
You could replace that with a DC current of 7.07 amps and it would work the same at heating something.

Now, look at that DC current and every 8 mS, turn it off for 4 mS and then back on again for 4 mS. 50% on 50% off. What would be the RMS current then?
 
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thx a lot vk6kro! so it would be like [(10/.707)^2*(4ms) + (0)]^ 1/2 which works out to be 5A! nice simple explanation, couldn't understand the complex equation given in the previous reply :( didn't noe what was omega ( 2 pi / 8ms ? ) but thanks guys
 
No.

The answer isn't 5 amps, sorry. That is wrong.

Turning a 7.07 amp current off for 50 % of the time gives you half the 7.07 amps heating ability.
So, 3.535 amps.

You multiply the peak value by .707 to get RMS but you were showing a divide, I think. You can divide by 1.414 instead if you like. Gives the same result.
 
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