Finding Limits of Improper Integrals Using L'Hospital's Rule

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hello all

well this is the first time Iv used latex it really took me along time to write, is it suppose to take that long or is there a better way of doing it?

anyway this is a small part of a bigger problem everytime i tried i always show that the limite does not exist, but when i chuck it into mathematica the limite does exist, can anybody help, its really awkward check it out

thanxs


\int_0^1\frac{\Pi\coth\Pi\times\x}{2}-\frac{1}{2\times\x}dx
\lim_{\epsilon \rightarrow 0} (\int_\epsilon^1\frac{\Pi\coth\Pi\times\x}{2}-\frac{1}{2\times\x}dx)
then eventually i get this
\lim_{\epsilon \rightarrow 0} (\frac{\log[\epsilon]}{2}+\frac{\log[\sinh\Pi]}{2}-\frac{\log[\sinh\Pi\epsilon]}{2})
but no matter how much i tried i cannot get it to equal
\frac{\log[\frac{\sinh\Pi}{\Pi}]}{2}
 
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\int_0^1\frac{\pi\coth\pi x}{2}-\frac{1}{2x}dx
= [\frac{log(sinh\pi x)}{2} - \frac{log(x)}{2}]_0^1
= [\frac{log(\frac{sinh\pi x}{x})}{2}]_0^1
= \frac{log(sinh\pi)}{2} - \lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{log(\frac{sinh\pi x}{x})}{2}
= \frac{log(sinh\pi)}{2} - \frac{log(\pi)}{2}

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Please use \pi with small p and use x instead of \times when referring to variable x. \PI and \times look absolutely awful in your given expression :smile:
 
hello there

thanxs for the advice about latex i sure hope i will improve in the near future
anyway i don't really understand how you did this step

\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\log(\frac{sinh\pi x}{x})=log(\pi)

thats exactly where I am getting concused am i missing something i am suppose to know?

thanxs
 
You can take lim inside log (since the log function is continuous)

-- AI
 
well this is what i have done so far but i don't see how that's going to get me to \pi, i tried plotting it on mathematica, it wouldn't plot

\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\log(\frac{sinh\pi x}{x})
=\log(\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{sinh\pi x}{x})
=\log(\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{e^{\pi x}+e^{-\pi x}}{2x})

where am i going wrong?
 
sinh\pi x = \frac{e^{\pi x}-e^{-\pi x}}{2}
Apply L' Hospital.

-- AI
 
wow this L' Hospital stuff is great thanxs for the directions muchly appreciated

steven
 
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