Finding parameters of a hyperbolic orbit

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The discussion revolves around determining the parameters of a hyperbolic orbit for a particle under a repulsive inverse square law force. The expressions for the semi-latus rectum (ℓ) and eccentricity (ε) are derived in terms of mass (m), gravitational parameter (μ), amplitude (A), and angular momentum (h). Initial conditions involving the distance (a), velocity (v), and angle (β) are used to find the parameters h, ℓ, ε, and the angle θ₀. The complexity of the resulting equations is acknowledged, particularly in relation to the trigonometric functions involved. The participants express a willingness to accept complicated answers as part of the learning process.
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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m is moving in a repulsive inverse square law force ##\mathbf{F}(\mathbf{r}) = (\mu/r^2)\hat{r}##. Given that ##u(\theta) = -\frac{\mu}{mh^2} + A\cos(\theta - \theta_o)##,
1) Determine the paramters of the (far branch of the)hyperbolic orbit: $$\frac{\ell}{r} = -1 + \epsilon \cos(\theta - \theta_o)$$ in terms of ##m,\mu,A, h##.

2)The particle is projected at a distance a from the centre of force with velocity v at an angle ##\beta## wrt the radius vector corresponding to ##\theta = 0##. Use these initial conditions to find h, the semi-latus rectum ##\ell##, ##\epsilon, \theta_o##. Express your results in terms of ##v,\beta, a, m/\mu##.

The Attempt at a Solution



1)Sub in the expression for u given (the eqn in u was part of a show that) to get $$-\frac{\ell \mu}{mh^2} + \ell A \cos(\theta-\theta_o) = -1 + \epsilon \cos(\theta-\theta_o)$$
I can then identify ##\frac{\ell \mu}{mh^2} = 1 \Rightarrow \ell = \frac{mh^2}{\mu}## and ##\epsilon = \ell A = \frac{mh^2 A}{\mu}##Is this what they mean by parameters?

2) Defining ##\beta## from the radius vector, I arrived at the following two expressions:$$
\mathbf{v} = \sin \beta \hat{\theta} - \cos \beta \hat{r}\,\,\,0< \beta < \pi/2 ,$$or$$\mathbf{v} = \sin \beta \hat{\theta} + \cos \beta \hat{r}\,\,\,\pi/2 < \beta < \pi$$


One IC could be ##u(\theta = 0) = 1/a = -\frac{\mu}{mh^2} + A \cos(\theta_o)##. To get another IC, I thought I could then take the derivative of u and equate the derivative to the radial component of ##\mathbf{v}## I obtained above. (but I have two different radial components depending on ##\beta##)

Many thanks.
 
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Given the initial velocity, angle and the radius, you obtain the angular momentum, which I think is ## h ## in your notation. All that you need to find then is ## A ## and ## \theta_0 ##, which you obtain from the equations for ## u ## and ## u' ##, just like you intend to.
 
voko said:
Given the initial velocity, angle and the radius, you obtain the angular momentum, which I think is ## h ## in your notation. All that you need to find then is ## A ## and ## \theta_0 ##, which you obtain from the equations for ## u ## and ## u' ##, just like you intend to.
$$u'(\theta) = -A \sin (\theta - \theta_o) = \frac{r^2}{\dot{r}h}$$. At ##\theta = 0,## r=a so then $$u' = A \sin {\theta_o} = \frac{a^2}{v \cos \beta h}, \dot{r} = v \cos \beta$$

Then $$\tan \theta_o = \frac{a^2}{v \cos \beta h} / (-\frac{1}{a} + \frac{\mu}{mh^2}),$$where ##|L| = mh => h = mav \sin \beta/m = a v \sin \beta##.

Then sub in expression for ##\theta_o## above into other eqn to solve for A?
 
CAF123 said:
$$u'(\theta) = -A \sin (\theta - \theta_o) = \frac{r^2}{\dot{r}h}$$.

If ## u = r^{-1} ##, then ## u' = -r^{-2} \dot {r} \dot{\theta}^{-1} = -r^{-2} \dot {r} r^2 h^{-1} = - \frac {\dot{r}} {h} ##. The rest seems OK.
 
voko said:
If ## u = r^{-1} ##, then ## u' = -r^{-2} \dot {r} \dot{\theta}^{-1} = -r^{-2} \dot {r} r^2 h^{-1} = - \frac {\dot{r}} {h} ##. The rest seems OK.

Ok, I get $$\theta_o = \operatorname{arctan}\left(\frac{cot \theta(mav sin^2 \beta)}{\mu - mv^2 a sin \beta}\right),$$ and $$A = \frac{\frac{1}{a} + \frac{\mu}{ma^2 v^2 \sin^2 \beta}}{arctan(\frac{cot \theta(mav sin^2 \beta)}{\mu - mv^2a sin \beta})}$$

It looks a mess, but I think I am getting used to accepting complicated looking answers in this course I am taking.
 
I do not understand the ## \cot \theta ## term. ## \theta = 0 ## in the initial condition, so why is it there?
 
Rather, ##\cot \beta##.
 
voko said:
If ## u = r^{-1} ##, then ## u' = -r^{-2} \dot {r} \dot{\theta}^{-1} = -r^{-2} \dot {r} r^2 h^{-1} = - \frac {\dot{r}} {h} ##.

Actually a quick question about this: Does the above not assume r is a function of t?

EDIT: If I understand correctly, you did ##u' = \frac{d}{d\theta} r^{-1} = \frac{d}{dt} r^{-1} \frac{dt}{d\theta}##.
 
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I am not sure what the difficulty is. In dynamics, everything is a function of t. Something may also be a function of something else, but then that something else will have to be a function of t anyway.
 
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voko said:
I am not sure what the difficulty is. In dynamics, everything is a function of t. Something may also be a function of something else, but then that something else will have to be a function of t anyway.

Yes, it makes sense - r is a function of theta and theta is a function of t.
 
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The expressions for h and l are nice, ##\theta_o## is okay but ##\epsilon## involves stuff/(cos(arctan(cot ##\beta## (stuff)))). I could probably simplify the cos(arctan..) using trig, but the argument of arctan is quite complicated and 'simplifying' it may make it even messier.
 
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Well, you could definitely give it a try. I know I would not want to.
 
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