Finding parametric surface area

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The problem involves finding the surface area of a portion of the plane defined by the equation 2x + 5y + z = 10, specifically the part that lies within the cylinder described by x² + y² = 9. The context is centered around parametric surface area calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster details their approach to the problem, including the setup of the parametric equations and the calculation of the surface area integral. Some participants question the accuracy of the final result, noting a potential oversight in the integration process and suggesting that the area of the disk could be used directly.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations. There are differing opinions on the necessity of integration versus directly calculating the area of the disk. No consensus has been reached, but there is engagement with the problem and attempts to clarify the reasoning involved.

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Participants are navigating the assumptions related to the integration process and the geometric interpretation of the area within the defined boundaries. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their solution, highlighting the collaborative nature of the discussion.

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I was able to get an answer to this homework problem, but I have no way of verifying that it is correct. I was hoping someone more experienced than me could look over my work and let me

know if I did the problem correctly.

Homework Statement



Find the surface area of the part of the plane 2x+5y+z=10 that lies inside the cylinder x^2+y^2 = 9

Homework Equations



Parametric surface area:
\vec r (u,v) = <x(u,v), y(u, v), z(u, v)>

A(S) = \iint\limits_D \left |\vec r_u\times \vec r_v \right |dA

The Attempt at a Solution



Let x = x, y = y, z = 10 - 2x - 5y

Then \vec r(u, v) = <x, y, 10-2x-5y>, let u = x and v = y

\vec r_x(x, y) = <1, 0, -2>, \vec r_y(x, y) = <0, 1, -5>

\vec r_x \times \vec r_y = \left | \begin{array}{ccc} \vec i & \vec j & \vec k \\ 1 & 0 & -2 \\ 0 & 1 & -5 \end{array} \right| = <2, 5, 1>


\left | \vec r_x \times \vec r_y \right | = \sqrt {2^2 + 5^2 + 1} = \sqrt {30}

A(S) = \iint\limits_D \left |\vec r_u\times \vec r_v \right |dA = \iint\limits_D \sqrt{30} dA
Where D is the region bounded by x^2+y^2 = 9, or in polar, r^2 = 9

A(S) = \iint\limits_D \sqrt{30}dA = \int\limits_0^{2\pi} \int\limits_0^3 \sqrt{30}\ rdrd\theta = \sqrt{30} \int\limits_0^{2\pi} \left. \frac{1}{2} r^2 \right |_0^3 d<br /> <br /> \theta = \frac{\sqrt{30}}{2} \int\limits_0^{2\pi} \left. 9\ d\theta = \frac{9\sqrt{30}}{2}\theta \left. |_0^{2\pi} \right = 9\sqrt{30}
 
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Looks good except you dropped a pi at the very last step.
 
Nat3 said:
I was able to get an answer to this homework problem, but I have no way of verifying that it is correct. I was hoping someone more experienced than me could look over my work and let me

know if I did the problem correctly.

Homework Statement



Find the surface area of the part of the plane 2x+5y+z=10 that lies inside the cylinder x^2+y^2 = 9

Homework Equations



Parametric surface area:
\vec r (u,v) = &lt;x(u,v), y(u, v), z(u, v)&gt;

A(S) = \iint\limits_D \left |\vec r_u\times \vec r_v \right |dA

The Attempt at a Solution



Let x = x, y = y, z = 10 - 2x - 5y

Then \vec r(u, v) = &lt;x, y, 10-2x-5y&gt;, let u = x and v = y

\vec r_x(x, y) = &lt;1, 0, -2&gt;, \vec r_y(x, y) = &lt;0, 1, -5&gt;

\vec r_x \times \vec r_y = \left | \begin{array}{ccc} \vec i &amp; \vec j &amp; \vec k \\ 1 &amp; 0 &amp; -2 \\ 0 &amp; 1 &amp; -5 \end{array} \right| = &lt;2, 5, 1&gt;


\left | \vec r_x \times \vec r_y \right | = \sqrt {2^2 + 5^2 + 1} = \sqrt {30}

A(S) = \iint\limits_D \left |\vec r_u\times \vec r_v \right |dA = \iint\limits_D \sqrt{30} dA
Where D is the region bounded by x^2+y^2 = 9, or in polar, r^2 = 9

A(S) = \iint\limits_D \sqrt{30}dA = \int\limits_0^{2\pi} \int\limits_0^3 \sqrt{30}\ rdrd\theta = \sqrt{30} \int\limits_0^{2\pi} \left. \frac{1}{2} r^2 \right |_0^3 d<br /> <br /> \theta = \frac{\sqrt{30}}{2} \int\limits_0^{2\pi} \left. 9\ d\theta = \frac{9\sqrt{30}}{2}\theta \left. |_0^{2\pi} \right = 9\sqrt{30}
It is isn't really necessary to integrate. \int\int dA= A, the area. And the area of a disk of radius 3 is 9\pi
\int\int \sqrt{30}dA= 9\pi \sqrt{30}

 
Thanks!
 

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