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The discussion revolves around the flight times of two projectiles launched from the ground: one vertically and the other at a 30-degree angle. The participants are exploring the time it takes for each projectile to return to ground level, using initial speeds and gravitational acceleration as parameters.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to determine flight times, with some questioning the validity of the original poster's calculations. There are inquiries about the reasoning behind the different times calculated for each projectile and the assumptions made in the approach.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the calculations and assumptions made regarding the flight times. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the answers provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in the calculated flight times, particularly questioning the large difference between the times for the two projectiles. There is also mention of confusion stemming from the professor's presentation of various equations, some of which may not be relevant to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement


Two projectiles are launched from the ground with initial speeds of 100 meters per second. One is launched straight up, the other at a 30-degree angle. How much time elapses between each's return to ground level?

Theta = 30
g = 10 m/s
Vinitial = 100

Homework Equations


y = vt - 1/2gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


As you can see in the image, I attempted to use the equations that I THINK were correct for this problem. My professor just threw a bunch of equations up on the board, some of which he said we don't need for now and they're just there to be there...so, hopefully I did these right.

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The attachment doesn't make your approach clear. How did you go about solving this?

And, what answer did you get?
 
PeroK said:
The attachment doesn't make your approach clear. How did you go about solving this?

And, what answer did you get?
I wrote the formula that I used on the paper...it's right underneath the given variables. My answers were that the object thrown straight up in the air took 20 seconds to fall, and the object that was thrown at a 30 degree angle took 5 seconds to fall.
 
EthanVandals said:
I wrote the formula that I used on the paper...it's right underneath the given variables. My answers were that the object thrown straight up in the air took 20 seconds to fall, and the object that was thrown at a 30 degree angle took 5 seconds to fall.
Why 5 seconds?
 
PeroK said:
Why 5 seconds?
Because, after plugging in 0 for y (when the object hits the ground), I got the equation 0 = 50t-10t^2, and after solving for t, I got 5.
 
EthanVandals said:
Because, after plugging in 0 for y (when the object hits the ground), I got the equation 0 = 50t-10t^2, and after solving for t, I got 5.

So, why 20 seconds in the first case?
 
PeroK said:
So, why 20 seconds in the first case?

Don't you think the difference between 20 and 5 is too large?

Can you spot your mistake?
 
You can view from vertical perspective.. from ground to max for each projectile.

First, vy=100.. using vt=v-gt
t=v/g=100/10=10s

Second, vy=100.sin30=50 m/s
t=5seconds

Total time for projectile 1 is 20s
Time for projectile 2 is 10s
So difference/time elapse is 20-10=10s
 

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