Finding Tension in a Simple Crane System

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The problem involves a simple crane system consisting of a rigid rod hinged to a wall and supported by a horizontal cable, with a mass hanging from a pulley. The goal is to determine the tension in the support cable, given the angle θ and gravitational field g.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the rod and the components of weight. Some express uncertainty about the equations derived, while others question the absence of the rod's mass in the problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the identification of forces acting on the rod.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding the mass of the rod, which may affect the analysis. Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem setup.

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A simple crane consists of a rigid rod that is hinged to a wall at one end and tied to the wall with a horizontal cable at the other end. The rod makes an angle θ to the wall. At the same end to which the cable is attached there is also a frictionless pulley. The rope that is looped over this pulley is attached to a mass m at one end and is held at the other end so that the weight hangs in equilibrium. Given that the gravitational field is g, what is the tension, T in the horizontal support cable?
 
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Hi XxseanxX_22@h! :smile:

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help. :wink:
 


well i got mgtanθ
 
XxseanxX_22@h said:
well i got mgtanθ

hmm … that's not even an equation, that's only the component of the weight of the mass m along the rod.

(btw, what's the mass of the rod itself?)

Hint: in problems like this, start by saying how many forces there are on the rod, and what they are. :smile:
 


I know this is another old post, but I found that XxseanxX_22@h has posted identical problems in the past that I have right now, I'm thinking he was potentially in the same class I am in now xD (btw, it is just coincidence we have the same name :S)

I am stuck, for net forces I have found that T=sintheta and 2mg=costheta. I'm not sure if those are right, but I'm also having trouble finding net moment about the rod. Any help?

edit: it doesn't actually give you the mass of the rod in the question
 
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Any help please? Would be greatly appreciated!
 

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