Finding tension of a cable on a beam

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The problem involves determining the tension in a cable supporting a uniform beam attached to a wall, with the beam free to pivot. The beam has a specified length and mass, and the cable is positioned at a given angle to the horizontal.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions for equilibrium and the implications for forces and moments acting on the beam. There are attempts to apply torque equations and identify distances relevant to the beam's weight and pivot point.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been provided regarding the application of torque and the location of the beam's center of mass, but no consensus on the final answer has been reached.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the distribution of weight along the beam and the significance of the pivot point in calculating torque. There is an emphasis on showing effort before receiving assistance.

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I am unsure of how to go about this problem, because whatever I tried wasn't right. So if anyone could help me by going step by step through it, showing all equations and numbers used, and then showing me the answers so I can make sure I get the same thing, I would appreciate it.


A uniform beam of length x = 1.0 m and mass 10 kg is attached to a wall by a cable at angle Θ = 30° to the horizontal, as shown in the figure. The beam is free to pivot at the point where it attaches to the wall. What is the tension in the cable?

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Well no one at PF will directly give you the answers, we will help you however, arrive it. After you show some effort.

If that beam is in equilibrium in the diagram, what does that mean about the forces on the beam?
 
It means they will equal zero.
 
Dark Visitor said:
It means they will equal zero.

So if the sum of the forces in the y direction is zero and the sum of forces in the x-direction is zero, and the sum of the moments about any point is zero.

Can you use one of those conditions to find the tension?
 
Well, what I did when I first attempted the problem was I used the equation:

"Net Torgue = Tsin(30) - mg" which gave me 196 N as my tension, but this was wrong. Now I don't know where I went wrong.
 
Dark Visitor said:
Well, what I did when I first attempted the problem was I used the equation:

"Net Torgue = Tsin(30) - mg" which gave me 196 N as my tension, but this was wrong. Now I don't know where I went wrong.

If you are taking moments about the end, then the net torque is zero.

so

0= (Tsin30)*1-(A)mg

what the value of A (the distance from the force to the pivot point)?
 
1 m? Cause the board is 1 m long.
 
Dark Visitor said:
1 m? Cause the board is 1 m long.

The board is uniform, where is the weight acting?
 
The weight of the board is acting on the center of the board.
 
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Dark Visitor said:
The weight of the board is acting on the center of the board.

and the center is how far away from the end?
 
  • #11
0.5 m.
 
  • #12
Dark Visitor said:
0.5 m.

so in 0= (Tsin30)*1-(A)mg, what is A?
 
  • #13
0.5 m? So just plug that into the equation?
 
  • #14
Dark Visitor said:
0.5 m? So just plug that into the equation?

which gives T as?
 
  • #15
I got 98 N.
 
  • #16
Dark Visitor said:
I got 98 N.

Is that the correct answer?
 
  • #17
Yes. Thanks a lot dude.
 

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